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Standard User Spud2003
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 13-Nov-17 20:28:02
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Openreach fibre plan for 10m premises - 'before Christmas'


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From The Register -

Openreach fibre plan for 10m premises coming 'before Christmas' smile
Standard User billford
(elder) Mon 13-Nov-17 20:34:00
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... as Openreach builds fibre connections, it will need to encourage internet users need to pay more for their services.
Good luck with that!

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Standard User MC31
(member) Tue 14-Nov-17 17:33:06
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Which one ?

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Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(committed) Tue 14-Nov-17 17:49:37
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Re: Openreach fibre plan for 10m premises - 'before Christma


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In reply to a post by billford:
... as Openreach builds fibre connections, it will need to encourage internet users need to pay more for their services.
Good luck with that!


Most customers would not mind paying a little more if guaranteed a decent speed increase but the ones that do not need the speed will not pay full price as it stands.



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Edited by Chippy_Tea_ (Tue 14-Nov-17 17:51:31)

Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-Nov-17 18:53:31
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Well if your FTTP then there is NO need to pay for copper LINE RENTAL is there, so it's common sense they will want more money for the FTTP service, but if no line rental fees many wouldn't mind paying more for their internet
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 14-Nov-17 18:55:17
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So who would pay for upkeep of the fibre network then ?

Standard User JHo1
(member) Tue 14-Nov-17 19:31:29
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Err, the broadband subscribers? He points out that bb prices will have to go up to pay for all of this. Seems fair.

John
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 14-Nov-17 19:34:41
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Urm you can get a data only GEA-FTTP service now, Zen will sell it to you...

Alas price is no cheaper because not cheaper at the wholesale level, i.e. loss of revenue from SMPF/MPF voice line rental is already taken into account.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 14-Nov-17 19:43:44
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2017 - and I believe they will meet that.


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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 14-Nov-17 20:16:23
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"plan" is the key word here ..

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Standard User billford
(elder) Tue 14-Nov-17 20:19:50
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Hi Taras, long time no see!
In reply to a post by Taras:
"plan" is the key word here ..
Agreed, any fool can make a plan tongue

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Standard User bowdon
(committed) Tue 14-Nov-17 20:33:33
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If ISP's thought we wouldnt pay higher prices for broadband we'd all be paying £10 now.

It seems everytime some positive news comes out most are stuck in a rut of negativity. Lets try and be positive about this news.

I think the pro-Fibre people in BT/OR now at least have a voice in Mike McTighe.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 14-Nov-17 21:21:07
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I think the pro-Fibre people in BT/OR now at least have a voice in Mike McTighe.

I'm 'pro fibre' ............. I was just saying I thought it somewhat unreasonable to expect not to have to pay something towards upkeep of copper OR fibre.

Standard User bowdon
(committed) Wed 15-Nov-17 13:15:15
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Ahh yea.. only my opening line was aimed at you. The rest was aimed at the pessimistic posters on here.

Sorry about that smile

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Nov-17 13:20:29
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Ahh yea.. only my opening line was aimed at you.

...as in ...
If ISP's thought we wouldnt pay higher prices for broadband we'd all be paying £10 now.


Not entirely sure why you'd aim that at me ??

Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Nov-17 16:41:12
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In reply to a post by Chippy_Tea_:
In reply to a post by billford:
... as Openreach builds fibre connections, it will need to encourage internet users need to pay more for their services.
Good luck with that!


Most customers would not mind paying a little more if guaranteed a decent speed increase but the ones that do not need the speed will not pay full price as it stands.
Market evidence suggests that 'most customers' would not pay extra. The majority of customers are on the cheaper packages and shop around for the cheapest deal they can find. I seem to recall a survey not so long ago that implied most customers don't even know what package they are on let alone what speeds they are actually getting.

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Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Nov-17 16:42:37
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Meh, I could come up with a plan before Christmas. Even this coming Christmas. But getting everyone to agree to it then getting everyone organised to implement it then actually getting spades in the ground and fibre laid is another matter.

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Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Nov-17 16:43:20
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In reply to a post by billford:
Hi Taras, long time no see!
In reply to a post by Taras:
"plan" is the key word here ..
Agreed, any fool can make a plan tongue
And they often do. Typically from a padded seat in Westminster.

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Andrue Cope
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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sat 18-Nov-17 13:55:15
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The issue is not so much what consumers will pay but rather what ofcom allow openreach to be paid.

e.g. we have had inflation busting line rental increases for several years now and consumers are clearly paying the higher prices, but at the same time openreach's share of the revenue has been forced down by ofcom.

Regulation is holding back investment.

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