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Standard User donkay
(newbie) Fri 23-Feb-18 14:24:55
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FTTPoD


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Hi all, annoying newbie here with more FTTPoD questions...

I've been making enquiries for FTTPoD to my home in Cardiff for some weeks now. Am waiting on FluidOne, Cerberus and Spectrum to get back to me with the new pricing structure.

In terms of install, I was previously in Band A so approx £2000 install charge but I'm fully expecting this to rise but I won't know the costs fully until the survey (£250 Cerberus, £120 FluidOne)

FluidOne are only doing 3 year contracts, Cerberus I've read are doing 12 month and Spectrum don't yet know what they're offering! I expect to pay about £75-100/month + vat for 330/30 connection.

My questions are what latency/ping should I expect once the connection is live? When the contract term is up and the connection becomes native, am I able to easily move providers to say 1GB Hyperoptic, even though I understand they'll have to install their socket inside the house. Do Hyperoptic provide a similar FTTPoD install?

FluidOne are also quoting their contention ratio of 10:1 as a good selling point, whereas Cerberus say contention isn't an issue with the way OR are providing the infrastructure now.

Any help/advice is greatly appreciated
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 23-Feb-18 14:30:26
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Hyperoptic does not do a FoD service so moving to them is dependent on them rolling out to you, and they concentrate (99.99%) on apartments.

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Standard User donkay
(newbie) Fri 23-Feb-18 14:45:53
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Thanks Andrew.

So OR FTTP and Hyperoptic are different systems?


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 23-Feb-18 15:08:01
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Yes

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 23-Feb-18 15:13:54
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In reply to a post by donkay:
Thanks Andrew.

So OR FTTP and Hyperoptic are different systems?

Yes.

As for the ping / Latency etc I get the following at the moment (located in East London):

[BBC]
ping -4 bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [151.101.128.81] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 151.101.128.81: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=54
Reply from 151.101.128.81: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=54
Reply from 151.101.128.81: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=54
Reply from 151.101.128.81: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 151.101.128.81:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 3ms

[Google]
ping -4 google.co.uk

Pinging google.co.uk [216.58.208.163] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 216.58.208.163: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=51
Reply from 216.58.208.163: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=51
Reply from 216.58.208.163: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=51
Reply from 216.58.208.163: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 216.58.208.163:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 3ms

[YouTube]
ping -4 youtube.com

Pinging youtube.com [216.58.208.142] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 216.58.208.142: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=51
Reply from 216.58.208.142: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=51
Reply from 216.58.208.142: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=51
Reply from 216.58.208.142: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 216.58.208.142:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 4ms

[TBB Forums]
ping -4 forums.thinkbroadband.com

Pinging forums.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.126] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.249.99.126: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=53
Reply from 80.249.99.126: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=53
Reply from 80.249.99.126: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=53
Reply from 80.249.99.126: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 80.249.99.126:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 4ms

I hope that helps a bit.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 303.03 Mbps (down), 31.71 Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest | Ookla Speedtest | Linksys WRT 3200 ACM (BQM)

Edited by PaulKirby (Fri 23-Feb-18 15:24:47)

Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 23-Feb-18 15:21:40
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In reply to a post by donkay:
1)I won't know the costs fully until the survey (£250 Cerberus, £120 FluidOne)

2) My questions are what latency/ping should I expect once the connection is live?

3) FluidOne are also quoting their contention ratio of 10:1 as a good selling point, whereas Cerberus say contention isn't an issue with the way OR are providing the infrastructure now.

1) youíll get the initial estimate with costs (non binding & free) which will be confirmed after the survey.

2) latency is largely dependent on your geographical location. Being in Cardiff and going with F1 or Cerberus will give you ping times of 10Ė15ms on fttp. Iím getting 20ms from North Scotland on Fluidone FTTPoD.

3)FTTPOD is a contended (shared) service so despite the ispís blurb you shouldnít be surprised if you get slow downs at peak times. Having said that, Iíve not noticed ANY slow downs on my FTTPoD service with Fluidone during the last 6-7 months. You may or may not be as lucky as me smile

FluidOne FTTP On Demand 330/30 Mbps
Linksys EA9500v2

Edited by baby_frogmella (Fri 23-Feb-18 15:40:05)

Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-Feb-18 09:41:52
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Whilst you can't move to hyperoptic there are a small number of suppliers that do supply FTTP via Openreach that will be an option once the minimum term is up. Hopefully as Openreach FTTP gets wider spread then more ISPs will start to resell it.
Standard User donkay
(newbie) Fri 09-Mar-18 17:16:40
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Thanks all for help and info
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