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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 11-Mar-18 15:28:25
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Re: FTTP available soon - stage 1 question


[re: unknown101] [link to this post]
 
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.1441128,-0.3459053...

So the CBT is right at the junction of the lanes, and yet customers at the top of Vann Lake are able to order .... additional CBT was fitted up at the top end, and even then further extended into one of the properties itself.

It took a little longer to sort out , but it got done.

The suggestion that service wouldn't be offered because the premade kits aren't long enough would be a very dubious business practice. Problems arise, they very often get sorted.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 11-Mar-18 15:32:16
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Re: FTTP available soon - stage 1 question


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So what about the estates where CBT infrastructure is in place, but the builders still fit 2 fibres from the CSP outside to the internal CSP, so that's not just a one off on the day fix, that's hundreds of homes served like this.

I can name two large estates round here where this has been done.

Standard User FTTP2
(learned) Mon 12-Mar-18 21:16:22
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Re: FTTP available soon - stage 1 question


[re: DrSteve] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by DrSteve:
That sounds a bit more promising. It's approx 260m from the pole to the front of the house along the lane. There is a small one of these about a 1/3 of the way down the lane outside the 1st property on the lane (there are 2 houses and 2 further undeveloped sites) and the current phone line is in a plastic pipe running the whole way to property boundary. That might help I suppose. Don't mind contributing if need be but not one of thoese crazy FTTPoD costs!


When are you planning to order FTTP!? We are getting it tomorrow (hopefully)


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Standard User DrSteve
(newbie) Tue 13-Mar-18 11:02:25
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Re: FTTP available soon - stage 1 question


[re: FTTP2] [link to this post]
 
As soon as I'm able to!
The company that seem to be doing the work are Tyfer Networks, a local company that I assume are carrying out the work for Openreach. They were back yesterday working a bit further up the road. I guess it depends how long it takes to get all the poles connected back to the node or exchange or wherever they connect to.
In the meantime I'll just be spamming the checker to see if it changes!

I was having a look along the rest of the road. We're on a rural road in North Antrim. There are some properties along the road but a lot are down lanes like we are, plenty of farms too. I would have thought the 2 stage approach would allow significantly more connections than the 1 stage if they apply the 150m limit. I can see the benefit in an urban area but maybe 'old' way would have worked better in this area. I suppose somebody already looked into this an decided otherwise before the roll-out though.
Standard User FTTP2
(learned) Tue 13-Mar-18 20:40:18
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Re: FTTP available soon - stage 1 question


[re: DrSteve] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by DrSteve:
I would have thought the 2 stage approach would allow significantly more connections than the 1 stage if they apply the 150m limit. I can see the benefit in an urban area but maybe 'old' way would have worked better in this area. I suppose somebody already looked into this an decided otherwise before the roll-out though.


2-stage seems to be phased out. They are not going to do this anymore, guess it just cost more money to have two people doing the job. The engineer today called it ‘legacy’ connection.

It seems the system has moved on to this connectorised 1-stage.

Anyway, we also went through this whole process. Once the cables are laid, there is another team that connects them up. That’s when you should ask them when do you they think it will be commissioned/published. That sort of means that they are testing the lines and make it ready for getting into the systems.

Good luck.
Standard User DrSteve
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-18 11:21:43
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Re: FTTP available soon - stage 1 question


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Thanks for the reply and all the other replies too. I suppose it's just a waiting game now with a daily check of the availability checker.

Out of interest do you know how FTTPoD would work in this situation? I understand that the cost is based on running fibre from the aggregation node to the premises. Is this still the case when there are splitters and CBTs on all the poles along the road?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 17-Mar-18 11:24:42
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Re: FTTP available soon - stage 1 question


[re: DrSteve] [link to this post]
 
If you are not connected to a VDSL2 under current FoD rules you would not be able to order FoD.

If they've marked you as not possible for FTTP but near you, common reason being they see the length of final drop is in the excess construction charge region and don't list FTTP availability. With the right provider you might be able to get a quote for the ECC cost to get FTTP to you.

As always speculation until everything is built and you know its working as a neighbour has it up and running.

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Standard User DrSteve
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-18 11:38:47
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I am currently connected to a FTTC enabled cabinet but due to the distance FTTC is not available. When we moved in we were on a long rural EO line but this has now been routed through a new cabinet outside the exchange but this would be 2-3 miles away and possible longer depending on the route our line actually takes.
The checker does show FTTP on Demand as available on our line though.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 17-Mar-18 12:22:17
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[re: DrSteve] [link to this post]
 
One would hope then if you are missed out from the FTTP roll-out, then the FoD option will remain, what they'll charge is the big question, I'd hope it would cover just the cost back to the existing FTTP network, but it may be that was dimensioned for the premises passed so no capacity for you, which would push a FoD cost up

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Standard User DrSteve
(learned) Tue 10-Apr-18 16:09:42
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Just a quick update in case anyone was interested. I have been spamming the checker for the last couple of weeks and today it changed to available. Straight on to the phone to Zen and have ordered their 300/50 product. Lady on the phone was talking about 2 engineer visits but the checker says it is a 1 stage install which she didn't seem to have heard of. I mentioned extra build costs because of the lane but she said they are rare and OR usually 'swallow them'! Here's hoping. Says this below the checker...

Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG Feed Not Evaluated.

I assume that's since there hasn't been any sort of survey the the area yet.
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