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Standard User Philce
(experienced) Wed 18-Apr-18 17:15:53
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interleaving suddenly applied to line?


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Can anyone shed any light on why I have suddenly been interleaved?
Stats as below.

I was on Cloudscape and suffered with their congestion issues, I have moved to AAISP and things are massively better.
However I experienced a line drop yesterday morning that resulted in the DLM applying interleaving to the line.
The line has been in sync 80/20 for more than 3 years without issue, no noise on the line, and I am connected to the filtered faceplate.
Any ideas, or should I not worry?
I dont think GINP is enabled?

Uptime is 2days 8 hours.
Line Stats
Downstream Upstream
TCM(Trellis Coded Modulation)
OnOn
SNR Margin
5.6 dB 9.5 dB
Line Attenuation
8.8 dB 15.2 dB
Path Mode
Interleaved FastPath
Interleave Depth
1145 1
Data Rate
79163 kbps 20000 kbps
Max Rate
110800 kbps 27698 kbps
Power
0.3 dbm 1.0 dbm
INP
2.1 symbols 1.1 symbols
INP-SHINE
- -
INP-REIN
--
CRC
137 31
Standard User IamQ
(experienced) Wed 18-Apr-18 18:28:25
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Re: interleaving suddenly applied to line?


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I Wouldn't worry unless it starts happening all the time and the line starts to go south. Its just BT's system deciding it knows best...
Standard User Philce
(experienced) Thu 19-Apr-18 09:22:40
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Another retrain overnight, downstream is now 78M.


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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Thu 19-Apr-18 16:46:26
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Re: interleaving suddenly applied to line?


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Did you move to AAISP in the last couple days?
INP
2.1 symbols 1.1 symbols

This looks odd, what modem is it?

They were meant to be rolling out a new DLM profile that had FEC by default. This might be it?

I've never seen an INP of 2.1
The minimum INP is usually 3

edit: won't be that. pretty sure the new profile is applied immediately to new lines, instead of an open profile (fastpath) for the 1st day or 2.

found the article...

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/02/openre...

Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 19-Apr-18 22:32:35)

Standard User Philce
(experienced) Fri 20-Apr-18 09:52:47
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Re: interleaving suddenly applied to line?


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Yes AAISP for a few weeks now, no issues at all.

Its an ASUS DSL-AC56U, not sure what was there before.

I wouldn't expect the speed to drop though.

I'm on an ECI cab so shouldn't have G.INP anyway.
Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Fri 20-Apr-18 12:22:07
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You couldn't have G.INP anyway.
OpenReach have removed it for Asus modems with Mediatek chipsets, as they don't behave properly.

As a router your Asus is fine.
As a modem it needs thrown in the bin.
Standard User Philce
(experienced) Fri 20-Apr-18 12:25:15
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I am tempted to replace the originally supplied modem, but the loss of line stats is a pain.
I know I can probably hack the modem to get the stats but its a pain!
Standard User candlerb
(regular) Fri 20-Apr-18 15:36:56
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You could buy a modem: the Draytek Vigor 130 works very well for me.

It gives basic stats via web interface and detailed stats via telnet. And it supports baby jumbo frames (MTU 1508), so if your router supports that as well, you can get 1500 MTU end-to-end over PPPoE.
Standard User brookheather
(learned) Fri 20-Apr-18 16:38:34
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I also now use a Vigor 130 as my Asus DSL-AC68U went from FastPath to Interleaved some months ago - with the Vigor 130 it went right back to FastPath after a couple of days and my sync rate went back up from 72000 to 79997. I can also access my line stats by entering the 192.168.2.1 IP address from my home network - just requires a small bit of configuration on the Asus router.

Edited by brookheather (Fri 20-Apr-18 16:39:50)

Standard User Philce
(experienced) Fri 20-Apr-18 16:55:58
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Yes I was thinking of that, the Dratek kit is good, its just too expensive for me!
I might use the old BT modem for a while and use the ASUS as a router.
I can tell if interleaving is removed when the latency drops, the AAISP portal will tell me the sync if it changes.
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