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Standard User Webbs
(newbie) Wed 15-Aug-18 09:56:30
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Distribution Point Question


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Hi all,

In relation to residential FTTP services, if a DP is upgraded from FTTC provision to FTTP instead, do all the homes served by the DP have to be changed to FTTP by Openreach or can it be selective which ones are enabled for FTTP?

Many Thanks,

Webbs
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 15-Aug-18 10:29:25
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If FTTP is overlaid in a VDSL2 area the VDSL2 services remain in operation and people can order them still.

For an individual property there can be issues around length of run of fibre from DP to the property, which may attract excess construction charges at install time.

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Standard User Webbs
(newbie) Wed 15-Aug-18 11:24:56
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
If FTTP is overlaid in a VDSL2 area the VDSL2 services remain in operation and people can order them still.

For an individual property there can be issues around length of run of fibre from DP to the property, which may attract excess construction charges at install time.


Ok thanks, that's interesting. The background to my question relates to an ongoing FTTP Community Partnership, specifically Openreach's build proposal includes a number of homes OR claim are on the same DP as a local school. The homes were not in the submission list from our Community but the school was. From my stand-point it looks like OR might have added these homes to boost numbers and nothing more, though OR claim it's because the homes are on same DP as the school. I'd like to know if their claim is nonsense or not if possible.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Aug-18 11:27:13
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The short answer is, no.

If provided, the new fibre DP is a separate entity. So will sit alongside the existing copper DP, and only shares a geographic location.

Customers will not be automatically upgraded to FTTP, they will have to order a service from a service provider when they wish to do so.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 15-Aug-18 11:33:06
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Cannot say for sure, but usually all those on a DP do get the FTTP option, so is possible

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Standard User Webbs
(newbie) Wed 15-Aug-18 11:33:38
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
The short answer is, no.

If provided, the new fibre DP is a separate entity. So will sit alongside the existing copper DP, and only shares a geographic location.

Customers will not be automatically upgraded to FTTP, they will have to order a service from a service provider when they wish to do so.


Thank you. So my suspicions may be correct then? Or at least, the reasoning I'm being given by OR is misplaced if not deliberate.
Standard User Webbs
(newbie) Wed 15-Aug-18 11:40:07
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Cannot say for sure, but usually all those on a DP do get the FTTP option, so is possible


Ok that muddies the waters a bit then. Long story short, the school and these homes are passed in order to reach the large cup-de-sac of homes which the partnership represents. The partnership residents support providing FTTP to the school, but do not support providing the same to a number of homes that elected not to be part of the partnership.

The residents of the Partnership are querying if it is mandatory under the build requirements that these other homes end up effectively freeloading in this instance?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 15-Aug-18 11:48:17
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They could install the smallest fibre DP (4 lines) to serve the school.

The question is this, does including the properties on the same DP add to the costs? The price difference between a 4 port DP and 12 port DP should be minimal.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Aug-18 12:06:35
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How is this ‘freeloading’ ?
If all served by the same copper DP, then they ought to be able to order FTTP once it’s installed, if they choose.

This doesn’t sound especially ‘community’ orientated if you feel the FTTP should be for a privileged ‘few’.

Their use of it won’t affect your use of it ... or maybe ask them to chip in too, reduce the initial costs for all.

Standard User MCM
(knowledge is power) Wed 15-Aug-18 12:16:45
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How is this ‘freeloading’ ?
The OP mentioned that these properties had elected not to join the partnership and so presumably are unwilling or not prepared to contribute to the costs.
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