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Standard User scet27
(newbie) Mon 06-May-13 02:48:49
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My EE broadband speed


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Hi there,

I've been an EE subscriber for nearly a month and have noticed that my speeds are terrible compared to my previous O2 connection.

With O2 I would normally get 2260Kbps downstream, and after midnight if I power cycled the router I would get 3200Kbps, But with EE I am not even getting near 2000Kbps downstream at any time. I also think that my upstream rate with EE isnt 'balanced' i.e: too high.

EE told me I could get 3mb when they sold me the package!
( after midnight, with O2 i would have a stable 3200Kbps till around 9 a.m)

What do you make of theses stats?

Line Status --- SHOWTIME
Link Type --- Fast Path
Operation Mode Automatic G992.5(ADSL2+)

Data Rate Information
Stream Type Actual Data Rate
Upstream 819 (Kbps.)
Downstream 1575 (Kbps.)

Defect/Failure Indication
Operation Data Upstream Downstream
Noise Margin 7.8 dB 13.3 dB
Line Attenuation 27.5 dB 49.0 dB

Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End Indicator
Output Power 12.7 dBm 0.0 dBm
Fast Path FEC Correction 0 0
Interleaved Path FEC Correction NA NA
Fast Path CRC Error 2 0
Interleaved Path CRC Error NA NA
Loss of Signal Defect 1 0
Fast Path HEC Error STR 2 0
Interleaved Path HEC Error NA NA
Error Seconds 13

I have monitored the connection since going live and I believe DLM has finished.
I live approx 3.5 miles from nearest exchange.
My previous O2 connection was rock solid stable at 2260Kbps for 4 years, so why am I now getting lower speeds?

many thanks
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 06-May-13 04:20:09
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Re: My EE broadband speed


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Because of the 13dB Down NM. Need to tell Orange to stop constraining it.

Your Up sync is in fact too low. Should be higher on Fast Path but it itll find its own level.

DLM always runs. Thats its job.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Mon 06-May-13 11:17:47
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Re: My EE broadband speed


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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Because of the 13dB Down NM. Need to tell Orange to stop constraining it.

How easy is it to get EE support to manually lower noise margins?

Oliver.


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Standard User scet27
(newbie) Mon 06-May-13 14:54:50
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Re: My EE broadband speed


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In reply to a post by Oliver341:
In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Because of the 13dB Down NM. Need to tell Orange to stop constraining it.

How easy is it to get EE support to manually lower noise margins?


That's the question isn't it. I will try tommorow

cheers XRaySpex
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 06-May-13 17:44:10
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With difficulty!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 06-May-13 17:48:30
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You should be getting about 5.5 Meg @ 6dB NM. Not convinced high NM accounts for all your 4 Meg deficit.

Can you get stats from hidden test socket? Removed ring wire? Any extensions? swap filters?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User scet27
(newbie) Mon 06-May-13 20:34:53
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Can you get stats from hidden test socket? Removed ring wire? Any extensions? swap filters?


Those stats above ARE from the test socket, I never use the landline so its hardly ever plugged in.

I also removed the ring wire a long time ago, and I have one linked socket which has the Sky box plugged into a filter, and I have tested with and without the Sky box plugged in, to which there was no difference.

I have had a few people say I should be around 5.5 Meg during the years, but I have NEVER seen anywhere near that. The MOST I have seen my line reach is approx 4.2, which was in the first few days of my EE connection going live. And actually 4.2 Meg held stable for a few hours.

Today I have had problems with disconnections, here are the stats as of now

Line Status --- SHOWTIME
Link Type --- Fast Path
Operation Mode Automatic G992.5(ADSL2+)
Data Rate Information
Stream Type Actual Data Rate
Upstream 383 (Kbps.)
Downstream 1767 (Kbps.)
Defect/Failure Indication
Operation Data Upstream Downstream
Noise Margin 4.5 dB 6.9 dB
Line Attenuation 27.6 dB 49.5 dB
Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End Indicator
Output Power 12.9 dBm 0.0 dBm
Fast Path FEC Correction 0 0
Interleaved Path FEC Correction NA NA
Fast Path CRC Error 461 158
Interleaved Path CRC Error NA NA
Loss of Signal Defect 18 0
Fast Path HEC Error STR 225 491
Interleaved Path HEC Error NA NA
Error Seconds 514 86
Statistics
Received Cells 36801174
Transmitted Cells 6345352

Notice the noise margins???
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 06-May-13 21:39:39
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Yes, looks like NMs are free to roam and that wiring is sound.

Time to look at errors:
In reply to a post by scet27:
Loss of Signal Defect 18 0
Error Seconds 514 86
could be high depending when you last re-synced.

Best to reboot, to clear error counts, and monitor the rate of increase of these errors against "Time Connected" from top Status page.

EDIT: try double filtering Sky Box.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Mon 06-May-13 21:41:45)

Standard User scet27
(newbie) Mon 06-May-13 21:43:52
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thanks again XRaySpeX I will do as you suggest smile
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