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Standard User unclepauly1978
(newbie) Sat 24-Jan-15 12:32:26
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[help] configuring EE brightbox router


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hello,

I have just switched from o2 to EE and EE have just sent me my brightbox router.

the problem with the brighbox router is that it only supports dyndns.org for dynamic dns (which I need) and dyndns charge an annual fee. my o2 router however supports many other dyndns providers which are free of charge. so i had the o2 router set up with dtdns.org.

so what i need to do is continue using my o2 router with my new EE service. i logged in to the o2 router and changed the broadband username and password to my new EE ones...but the o2 router still will not connect, with 'authentication error'.

any ideas anyone ?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 24-Jan-15 15:03:35
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Re: [help] configuring EE brightbox router


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Which BrightBox, 1 or 2? 2 has more DDNS.

From O2? Thought they gone ages ago. Is that Sky running an O2 network?

O2 BB parameters were always non-standard, or at least out-on-a-limb. I'm surprised you could even find the BB username and password slots.

Anyway, the ones everybody on BTw use are:
Protocol PPPoA
VPI/VCI 0/38
Encapsulation VC Mux
MTU 1500


1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Sun 25-Jan-15 13:23:42
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Re: [help] configuring EE brightbox router


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Will the O2 router be locked to the O2 network? So it will not work on the EE/Orange broadband network? crazy frown

For EE/Orange, if domain name server (DNS) addresses are required, use:
Primary DNS 193.36.79.101
Secondary DNS 193.36.79.100

http://ee.co.uk/help/mobile-and-home-connections/bro...

EE/Orange Bright Box router settings, to configure Go… Advanced Set-Up > Accept > Broadband Settings.

BOADBAND SETTINGS
This page provides advanced settings to connect your EE Broadband service

Broadband Type ADSL
Broadband Username:
Broadband Password:

Protocol: PPPoA
VPI/VCI: 0/38
Encapsulation: VC MUX
Internet IP Address: Dynamic
IP Address: 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask: 0.0.0.0
DNS IP Address: Manual
Primary DNS: 193.36.79.101
Secondary DNS: 193.36.79.100
Connection Type: Always Connected
Idle Time: 0 (minutes)
Authentication Protocol: CHAP
MTU (576~1500): 1500

EE/Orange recommend MTU 1492 but I find 1500 works well with BT WBC. wink

EE broadband WBC 20 Mbps unlimited. Sync 15282 kbps Downstream, 1276 kbps Upstream. thinkbroadband/SpeedTest
Bright Box 1 ADSL2+ wireless N Router supplied by EE/Orange
BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700HGV v2 ADSL2+ Dual SSID wireless Router


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Jan-15 13:55:19
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Re: [help] configuring EE brightbox router


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In reply to a post by E7er:
Will the O2 router be locked to the O2 network?
Not actually locked, but as I remember it, it has no provision for BB Username & pwd, so won't work on EE.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Jan-15 14:01:53
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Not actually locked, but as I remember it, it has no provision for BB Username & pwd, so won't work on EE.

If I remember rightly, the O2 firmware had an O2 BTw PPPoA login in it, but it was not possible to change it. Would work on TT LLU though, which accepts any PPPoA user/pass.

Oliver.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Jan-15 14:34:32
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In reply to a post by Oliver341:
If I remember rightly, the O2 firmware had an O2 BTw PPPoA login in it
That was only for the G.DMT variant, O2 Access I think it was called. For ADSL2+, which wasn't on the BTw system, there was no Username/pwd slots and when you used other routers on O2 you had to choose a special setting of Protocol which I can't remember but was some RFC so as not to request Username/pwd.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Jan-15 14:46:24
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
In reply to a post by Oliver341:
If I remember rightly, the O2 firmware had an O2 BTw PPPoA login in it
That was only for the G.DMT variant, O2 Access I think it was called. For ADSL2+, which wasn't on the BTw system, there was no Username/pwd slots and when you used other routers on O2 you had to choose a special setting of Protocol which I can't remember but was some RFC so as not to request Username/pwd.

The IP bit (PPPoA/IPoA) was independent of the ADSL/ADSL2+ bit, which always synched to the line's maximum speed. The ADSL/ADSL2+ connected up first, before any of the IP bits came into play. Once synch was established (at the line's maximum speed), the two IP protocols (PPPoA & IPoA) were attempted in turn.

The confusing part was that it the interface named the PPPoA bit "ADSL" and the IPoA bit "ADSL2+" which implied it would only connect at 8 meg over PPPoA. O2 chose this because the BTw product they selected only supported 8 meg. However, those PPPoA credentials happily work over ADSL2+ as well.

I have actually tested this on a TT line. Since TT LLU accepts any PPPoA credentials, the O2 WB 2 synchs up at ADSL2+ speeds before authenticating with the old O2 Access PPPoA credentials.

Oliver.
Standard User IanBB
(member) Sun 25-Jan-15 15:14:22
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That's correct Oliver, if I look at my O2 TG582n which I am using on Sky I can see the username install@o2broadband.co.uk but not the password and am unable to change either.
Standard User IanBB
(member) Sun 25-Jan-15 15:21:09
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The ADSL2+ connection was IPoE and the RFC was 1483
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Jan-15 22:20:17
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In reply to a post by IanBB:
The ADSL2+ connection was IPoE and the RFC was 1483

On O2 & BE they used IPoEoA for their 24 meg LLU connection, yeah. The router will still happily get an IP using PPPoA on a 24 meg connection though, e.g. on TalkTalk, since TT don't care what PPPoA credentials are used. Equally the router would get an IP address via 8 meg ADSL over IPoEoA if the network it was connected to supported it.

Oliver.
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