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Standard User Lt_Swan
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Mar-13 21:55:40
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According to leaked screen captures, the new console, codenamed “Durango,” will be “Always On, Always Connected,” meaning it will require a perpetual Internet connection, in addition to a new high-fidelity Kinect Sensor, “which will be required for the system to operate,” representing a huge win for Big Brother in infiltrating homes across the across the world under the guise of trendiness.

Being touted as a measure to ensure “software and games are always current,” the new Xbox will not allow users to play games unless a permanent Internet connection is established, according to leaked screenshots obtained by the website




http://www.infowars.com/new-xbox-wont-let-you-play-u...


We are PlayStation Universe. We make a point to be the #1 independent site for PlayStation news, reviews, previews, and features on the Web. And yet, sometimes, other console camps make moves so egregious, so head-scratchingly crazy, that we simply must report on it. After all, the success and failure of Sony's competition affects PlayStation (and PlayStation gamers) a great deal. So, here goes.

Microsoft has filed a patent to allow Xbox Kinect to spy on you in your home, record the number of human users consuming content like games and movies, and charge additional license fees for exceeding the appropriate number of users.

If that sounds like some scary, Big Brother-type s**t, it's because it most definitely is. As ExtremeTech describes, "The patent’s various claims can endow a device with a limited number of performances in a given period of time, a limited number of users allowed to view such performances, and the continuous monitoring of viewers during those performances."

Effectively, your family and friends could become slaves to a system already in place for things like pay-per-view events at bars and restaurants. In many cases, your favorite pub pays for this coverage by the seat. It's the same idea here--to protect the interests of the MPAA, RIAA, and possibly even Microsoft itself, you could be charged for having too many people watching that movie you downloaded or your new favorite Xbox game.

Meanwhile, no such intent seems to exist for the PlayStation Camera, which will debut with PlayStation 4 later this year. We know that the PS Camera will feature dual 1080p stereoscopic lenses for better depth tracking and facial recognition, but no mention has been made of any application to copyright protection. Sony isn't stingy in this area, either. PS3 gamers have long been able to download content on multiple systems (though PS Vita's closed nature represents a move in the other direction).

Your voice matters, so sound off with your thoughts on Microsoft's sneaky patent--and how Sony should respond--in the comments below.

Alright, back to the news (and console) you care about.



http://www.psu.com/a018632/Not-convinced-about-PS4-A...

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Standard User SPOOKish
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 22-Mar-13 22:16:10
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Asides from the always on connection requirement that basically means MS are going to require users to install games (maybe with cd key) which is no surprise really [killing secondhand market and tackling games counterfeiting], the requirement for Kinect seems like bs/hype, scaremongering to me (well, at least till I've read the rest of the article or some new more official statement comes out). Can't see any reason at all why users would need to have an active camera watching and listening in all the time just to play games.

Considering all the news about 'big data' gathering exercises and how much they mean to marketing companies I can see why people are concerned about potential plans for Kinect and Move. But I imagine it's just a media frenzy trying to capitalise on driving up hysteria for the advertising clicks to their sites. Funny how things feed themselves. I doubt there's anything to be concerned about really. I'd bung up the microphones with blu tack and put tape on any cameras just to be sure - job done.

Edit: posted whilst you were busy editing yourself: yeah, second quote is disturbing for sure but it's all academic until MS or Sony, or whoever actually implement something. I seriously doubt they'd get away with that kind of plan and having such intrusive cameras in private homes would definitely induce a response from the legislature even if kicked off by class action lawsuits.

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Standard User Lt_Swan
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Mar-13 22:25:51
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I definitely won't be buying the new xbox and if sony do the same they can stick the ps4 where the sun don't shine

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Standard User SPOOKish
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 22-Mar-13 22:44:00
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Well, if this scenario came about I would not buy any more technology either. But there's a lot of paranoia going on in the world around technology and data gathering so I think it's best to wait and see before worrying about it.

I use an Android phone and I've been all right about using Chrome etc till recently but the more you find out about Google the less I wanna know. The ability to abuse customer privacy is gigantic with the tech we have available in our phones these days. It's definitely not going to be easy curtailing what these massive companies do with our data and I don't think governments first thoughts lie with protecting the consumer and promoting democracy for everyone either.

How do you regulate tech and trust companies to use these powerful tools responsibly? Well, I guess owning a PC will be more of a protest option than ever in future perhaps, especially if it's running Linux! laugh
Standard User Lt_Swan
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Mar-13 23:09:10
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I have google blocked on my laptop and DoNotTrack+ running smile
I use startpage instead of google
I'll go back to PC gaming if sony follow MS

Our governments definitely aren't looking out for us laugh

Swanny MX
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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 00:49:19
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I definitely won't be buying the new xbox and if sony do the same they can stick the ps4 where the sun don't shine


I doubt you be saying that if Battlefield 4 was only on the next generation consoles wink
Standard User majika2007
(newbie) Sat 23-Mar-13 03:14:47
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Food For Thought

If this turns out to be true and the next gen. consoles begin to monitor users in their own home in this fashion as the patient describes,
It will definitely be a massive invasion of consumer privacy.

IMHO it will be a huge step in the wrong direction followed by a big question mark around trust issues for the company's involved and towards their respective brands.

For those of us who can see how dangerous it is for private industry be allowed to be let loose with their surreptitious surveillance techniques along with the ability to monitor us in even more greater (Hi-Fi, Super-Depth VHQ, Pixel-perfect, butt-kicking, Tera-flop, Digital, madness..) detail then this path of thinking will have the potential to become its a very slippery slope towards an even greater degree of the Big brother world we are all being forced towards.

In reply to a post by SPOOKish:
but it's all academic until MS or Sony, or whoever actually implement something. I seriously doubt they'd get away with that kind of plan and having such intrusive cameras in private homes


This may sound cynical (This whole post is a bit cynical wink ) but I think that comments like "it's all academic" or "they wont get away with it" is exactly what corporations, especially those with private interests want us all to believe.

You mentioned the exact word (above) "..Plan.." this is exactly what they do. Big players such as these have some of the smartest people on the planet working away in R&D labs, crunching away on their enormous "big-data" stores harvested from PSN, XBOX Live and the ilk.
They know what they can (and can't) get away with. They have have had enough time to study, quantify, validate us and our habits. They have all the data they need to figure out how we "Tick" They have the demographic information, Psychological profiles for their customers. They have the intellect and know-how to devise such devices, plus all the big budget funding to match.
The most frightening aspect for myself, personally, is that these to big to fail corporations have all audacity in the world to make this kind of stuff a reality and have the ability to carry things even further forward.

so they

In reply to a post by SPOOKish:
would definitely induce a response from the legislature even if kicked off by class action lawsuits.

You would be surprised how powerful some lobbing groups are and how much influence they have over policy makers. (look at the Music / Movie / Food / Pharmaceutical industry's as examples)

As history has proven itself time-and-time again, its these kinds of bold corporate moves which are the exact things we all end up with and is what they end up continuously getting away with.
Slowly and methodically they get a small foothold into such things and their twisted ideas slowly become a reality.

One case and point that springs to mind:
Wasn't this the kind of thinking around the time when government first started taking about a national CCTV system back in the 90's.
"One camera on every street corner"

It was said back then "Oh, its just talk.. it will never happen, blah, blah, blah.." and stuff like "The general public will never stand for it..." But look what happened in that instance.

In the UK alone there is now 2.805 cameras per 100 population !
Total CCTV cameras in UK = 1.85 million.
Source: CCTV User Group - March 2011

Now with the proliferation of CCTV cameras in public places ANY notion of true privacy for the average Joe Blogs in the street has almost completely gone. The sheer number of CCTV cameras has led to some unease about the erosion of civil liberties and individual human rights, along with warnings of an Orwellian 'big brother' culture. This is not something that can just "go away", Things are going to keep on getting worse with respect to our civil liberty's and human rights coming under attack from yet another direction and especially in such 'charged' times such as these where we now live in a climate of Fear and uncertainty.

- One could argue that in this climate of fear and uncertainty CCTV systems are a good thing. maybe? But where does it all stop, where should the line be drawn that finally says no more. do we really need a nanny-cam system embedded in our next gen. Console and pay top buck for the privilege.

Will users accept this type of intrusion into their daily lives?
Probably, Yes they will.

For the vast majority of people living in the "modern age" common sense and reason has been replaced with the sounds of shopping tills ringing out with those same people chanting the 'consumers mantra'
"Go shopping, la la-la Buy more stuff.. la la-la la Don't think too much... (about anything..) la-la Just go buy more stuff.." tongue


When it comes to trying to keep up with the Jones which I suspect will be the case for many, with the notion of prestige which will come along with owning a shiny new PS4/XBOX Durango console will most probably out weigh any kinds of thoughts about potential subvert surveillance issues involved in owning one. This will be true for most as they do not fully comprehend the implications of how such technologies can/will be manipulated and exploited by these corporations if given half a chance.

Sometimes the "Nag Factor" overcomes logic and reason and this is what "smart" businesses have learned how to exploit this phenomena.

One final point which is kind of also related and something which I believe poses an even greater question:
How much of your (and my) data is already being Tracked, Tagged, archived, logged and sourced off us, every single moment we use our devices online (and offline) be it; browsing the web, searching the web, Social networking, checking mail, online gaming, streaming a film, Downloading and App or Music, Skype chats.
- I wonder what happens with all that data, who gets to say how it is used? Who makes sure our requests are enforced on how our data is used? Who monitors those people who are supposed to be monitoring them? Is it even possible for authorities to properly regulate it?

I wonder what will happen with all our Bio-metric data once XBOX Durango console has captured it all
Standard User SPOOKish
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 23-Mar-13 07:08:14
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As I said, regarding next gen consoles, it is all academic until they are launched and we get to see what they've got and how it'll be used.

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- I wonder what happens with all that data, who gets to say how it is used?


Who cares? All what data anyhow? Are we really that interesting that people want to spend time spying on us all day? I don't think so. Unless you're going to prance around naked, doing naughty things or whatever in front of a webcam/kinect/move camera that's recording stuff to the net then, I'd suggest you relax.

Yeah, marketing companies love big data. I wouldn't take it too personally myself. Like Lt Swanster, I minimise my browser's ability to track me with plugins like Ghostery and Adblock and routinely clear/block cookies though I confess to having gotten lazy regarding Chrome on my mobile devices. That's something I'm remedying as I just don't like Google's apparent arrogance in dealing with matters of privacy, there are just too many examples of them breaking privacy laws. BUT, so what? They might have built a profile of my browsing and shopping habits. Big deal. They can work out my gender, nerdiness, sexual orientation, age, likely educational/intelligence level if they want but it isn't all of me. I don't share everything on the net and I don't take things seriously enough to really fret or care. Screw 'em, I say.

If you don't fancy having MS or Sony take pictures of you whilst you masturbate then don't buy a new console when they arrive. Or just wait and see. All this talk about the new consoles is spurious and pointless until the proof is on the table. And then, you have a choice. Just don't buy it. I know I won't. Unless BF4 is an Xbox exclusive or something like Timey says. Right grandpa? wink
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 09:31:12
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That last paragraph has me worried as i do a lot of that wink

If Microsoft goes down this rumour route of always on and focussing on Kinect that no serious gamer is interested in then they have just shot themselves in the foot and will go the way of Sega and there console will not survive.

Nintendo have bought a so called next generation console [gimmick to the table] which has as much clout as what we have already in a Xbox 360 and Playstation 3.

They are now in talks with retailers in Europe about what they can do to Bump sales as its sales stats are very poor and nobody wants one.

Nintendo should be thankful they will have had a years head start because the minute Sony and Microsoft arrive they are very much doomed to 3rd place this time around and this will not become another Nintendo Wii seller and i see Nintendo developing a new console to compete in the next 18 months.

This was a stupid move by Nintendo,not only is it extremely under powered there is no software worth buying for it.

Mario,Zelda,Metroid,Smash brothers,all there big names Missing in Action tongue

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Standard User Lt_Swan
(knowledge is power) Sat 23-Mar-13 10:12:03
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In reply to a post by time2die:
In reply to a post by Lt_Swan:
I definitely won't be buying the new xbox and if sony do the same they can stick the ps4 where the sun don't shine


I doubt you be saying that if Battlefield 4 was only on the next generation consoles wink

I'm happy to play BF3. If the PS4 wants to spy on me I won't be playing BF4 on it.
I don't like the idea of being watched whatever I'm doing

Swanny MX
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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 10:30:08
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Playstation 4 we know the specifications and it wont be spying on you,if these rumours are true and lets not forget these are just rumours about the new Xbox then they will fail big time and if these rumours turn out to be true then the person/persons responsible for taking this route don't know nothing about Gamers and Gaming.
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Sat 23-Mar-13 10:55:32
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If you don't fancy having MS or Sony take pictures of you whilst you masturbate then don't buy a new console when they arrive.
I tell the missus the same thing all the time.

"If you didn't like it you wouldn't have bought that camera in the first place........now get on with it and try smiling this time."
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(knowledge is power) Sat 23-Mar-13 11:05:33
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That last paragraph has me worried as i do a lot of that
You take pictures of yourself masturbating? Self appreciation of your self appreciation, so to speak?

I like the way you old fellas roll. cool
Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Sat 23-Mar-13 11:18:49
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I appreciate your concerns, public surveillance could indeed end up a slippery slope, though at current Ievels I feel it is still just a useful tool for public safety (unless you have something to hide of course), but in your own home it's not an issue.

Chillax, do a Swanny and just vote with your wallet. smile
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(newbie) Sat 23-Mar-13 13:43:19
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I don't think governments first thoughts lie with protecting the consumer and promoting democracy for everyone either.


I agree. in fact, one could argue the lines that once separated governments and private corporations are becoming more and more blurred. Now it seems governments are always putting the interests of these "Too Big to fail" institutions ahead of their own citizens rights and needs. I just wish things we read in the press, etc and see around us everyday is just a little bit more transparent and clear cut.

It seems obscurity and disinformation is the weapon of choice for those in power.


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In reply to a post by time2die:
That last paragraph has me worried as i do a lot of that
You take pictures of yourself masturbating? Self appreciation of your self appreciation, so to speak?

I like the way you old fellas roll. cool


LOL to that ! smile

But, with regards to the rumoured XBOX private spying issue its easy (at present) just to say "just don't buy it if you don't like it." which is also known as consumer power.

In this instance, this notion stands true. We don't really "need" a console, we don't really need to "play" computer games (some may disagree, lol smile) however, in reality as technology progresses onwards and proliferates even further into every aspect of our daily lives this notion will not stand true as we become increasingly more and more reliant on technology in all parts of our lives. It may not be that easy say "no thanks" to buying that new Gizmo or Device.

In the future we may not have the luxury of following though on the notion "just don't buy it if you don't like it." as we may need it in order to live our lives the way we have become accustomed to.

For example Its slowly happening now, everyone currently has the "option" of being able to go online to pay their utility bills.

- what happens when we are no longer afforded such an option but instead forced to pay all our bills online?
will the notion of "just don't buy it if you don't want to" still stand true?


Everyone now has the "option" to buy shopping online. But what will happen if they finally do away with paper money, therefore, forcing you to have a bank account and become even further engrained into the system, this has already started to happen in parts of the world (just like in Canada with the plastic money.)

- Will the same notion still stand true?


What about when monitory systems finally make the transition to a full "digital credits system" which is housed on a remote banks server somewhere or a bit-coin server somewhere and the only way to access it is via an online bank account?

- The "just don't buy it if you don't like it." notion will be harder to disassociate yourself from.

IMO, this may sound extreme but in reality it will probably become a lot harder to survive in the future without said technology, but in the same breath we will have those options currently afforded to us taken away.
So, what we start to see now will be twice as bad in the future if left to those who don't have our interests at heart!

Its these same issues we a faced with as a society today which will determine how we survive tomorrow..

"Its in human nature to always take things to the extremes, we are all susceptible to the same emotions which drive us all, from the vagrant in the street to the CEO executive of a multinational corp. we all hunger for more, it is cultural thing, instilled in us that we should be consumers of "stuff" forget about the the obvious pitfalls just take what we can now and don't worry about what will happen tomorrow..

This is kind of off topic but still applicable to technology, surveillance and other forms of control.
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(newbie) Sat 23-Mar-13 13:56:28
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In reply to a post by mrnelster:
I appreciate your concerns, public surveillance could indeed end up a slippery slope, though at current Ievels I feel it is still just a useful tool for public safety (unless you have something to hide of course)


agree

In reply to a post by mrnelster:
but in your own home it's not an issue.

I would agree with you if you were the person in control of who sees what content I would agree but in the context of this thread this is not the case. It will be the next gen. XBOX that dictates what it sees, how it processes the information it monitors not you (unless you pull the plug out of the wall)

I think what people are missing from this conversation is the fact that a PRIVATE corporation (and god knows who else) will have access to your private home space. Not just visually but in many other ways as mentioned previously. They already have [censored] load of your information already.. its just a scary prospect of something monitoring you in your own home. IMHO It will set a scary precedent of things to come!
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(experienced) Sat 23-Mar-13 15:59:49
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Pass me my one size fits all tin foil hat will you?

I don't disagree about the always online and no used games thing as I sometimes borrow games from friends and colleagues I am thinking of buying and I don't always want to sign into XBox Live

Regarding the user tracking unless they are going to bundle kinect which is [censored] according to a colleague that bought one I'm not quite sure how this would work unless they are going to build the camera into the front bezel of the console?

You could always stick a post it note over it?

Sony have said the PS4 will play used disks so i may defect if MS do indeed do this.

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Standard User SPOOKish
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 23-Mar-13 16:11:34
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If you put your personal privacy concerns to one side and consider just how boring 99% of the time it'd be to spy on someone playing a video game or checking out their living space (likely bedroom), then you quickly see the attraction. Zero. Unless you're one of them voyeuristic weirdos who like to use remote access tools. Hmm... maybe not 99% then. wink

Joke!!

How I learned to live with privacy concerns and love the webcam! Yeah, watching T2D banging away on his 'joy' stick would certainly put the majority of those RATTERS off (hopefully!) You never know though, I suppose. The world is a strange place for sure. tongue

Hahaha.

Well, I wouldn't likely buy the new Xbox unless it has BF4 on it and I can continue to pleasure myself whilst gaming (ahem) in the comfort of my own home. Yeah, Microsoft would soon pull the plug if these were the kinds of images they'd be getting. Haha. I can just picture it now, their spying won't even last a week. We could all protest together - pants down protest! wink

Now what a great idea eh? Shame it won't work out on the streets. Maybe there are too many CCTV cams? But as my respected and learned comrade, HerrNelster, says, cameras have helped quite a bit in resolving serious crime. It's a shame the world isn't a fairer place and we all hide behind collective lies that our democracies are fair and that massive corporations are just business ventures with no political power, that we, as a people, care about those less well off than ourselves etc. But we don't. We lie and pretend the issues are something else or forget. Maybe we won't in future - perhaps we'll all be a little more enlightened. There are good forces at work too on the internet - dissemination of publicly available information that is free to use and that's been produced without nefarious intentions of controlling us all.

I personally just feel there is rather too much hysteria regarding these kinds of privacy issues and that's probably far more deleterious to your health than the majority of concerns about what could actually happen to our data. Just don't photograph your private parts and that should keep you safe I say. Works for me anyhow. smile
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 16:12:34
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Yes each new xbox 720 or whatever name they come with will apparently ship with the new kinect that nobody cares for anyway.
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 16:15:13
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Joke!!

How I learned to live with privacy concerns and love the webcam! Yeah, watching T2D banging away on his 'joy' stick would certainly put the majority of those RATTERS off (hopefully!) You never know though, I suppose. The world is a strange place for sure. tongue

I do that most nights but mainly when the girlfriend isn't around as its hardly a spectator sport wink
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(fountain of knowledge) Sat 23-Mar-13 16:19:11
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Joke!!

How I learned to live with privacy concerns and love the webcam! Yeah, watching T2D banging away on his 'joy' stick would certainly put the majority of those RATTERS off (hopefully!) You never know though, I suppose. The world is a strange place for sure. tongue

I do that most nights but mainly when the girlfriend isn't around as its hardly a spectator sport wink


No wonder your eyesight is so bad then! tongue
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 16:21:51
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What Gaming is bad for your eyesight tongue twiddling joysticks you don't say......
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 16:23:21
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Hey watch out for my Bioshock Infinite thoughts and impressions Monday evening matey wink
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 16:29:35
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Anyway majika nice to see a new face in the gaming forum matey smile welcome,Spookish can not post that often as his day release from the institution is restricted at present tongue
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(fountain of knowledge) Sat 23-Mar-13 17:00:12
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Anyway majika nice to see a new face in the gaming forum matey smile welcome,Spookish can not post that often as his day release from the institution is restricted at present tongue


Drool. AAAAAAhhhahahahahahahahaaaaaaa

crazy
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Mar-13 17:03:56
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You know you love it wink

You in for Bioshock Infinite next Tuesday or what ?

Edited by time2die (Sat 23-Mar-13 17:04:41)

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(fountain of knowledge) Sat 23-Mar-13 17:12:50
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I will wait and see what you and mrnelstar make of it.

laugh
It's tempting though. I'm playing LA Noire at the minute. What a strange game it is though. I am cheating my way through the suspect questioning as I tend to get everything wrong all the time and can't work out the reasoning behind the developers investigatory logic: Broad gets murdered with sharp object. [censored] knife found so it must've been poison! I just. don't. get. it!! crazy

Also, finished Dishonored which was a really good game (bit short though). Loved it. And finished Dead Island before that and that was kinda crud overall I felt.

Hmm. Bio Infinite is tempting for sure!

Sigh! Victim of oversenstive censor filter. The knife had blood on it! It was therefore blood'y' rather than an object of profanity.

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If you were to spy on mrnelster, you would notice no Herr at all, what with him being a thoroughly well groomed chap.
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Yeah La Noire played it for about 60 minutes and got bored with on release about 12 months ago,nice idea but badly implemented and not my type of game.

You seem to be playing games that have been out a while,tell you what I'm in to on my iPad and Mac.......Tower defence games .......I just love them.

Defence force the awakening on xbox is really cool.

Been looking at a few on Steam but many are Windows only with no support for Mac.

Any recommendations on a really blow your mind Tower defence game i might have missed,and don't get saying Plants v Zombies because i have had enough of both yourself and mrnelster tongue
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More than likely Ironing you mean wink
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Oh yeah? Thought better of it? Are you sure it isn't the onset of Tourette's? wink
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Feck. Sheee-eye---tttttttaaaah!

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No. I just had misgivings about the joke I made about you not being a Herr. Maybe there are kids using the gaming forum other than Timey. I felt I should set an example and try not to be so childish. wink

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Or he could have been after some personal hygiene advice, we'll never know. wink
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Don't worry about him, he's usually got his hands full by all accounts.

Well, I say full.......wink
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Haha. Tweezers at the ready.
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Im in the saveloy class and you two Chipolata tongue

Hey stop picking on the old timer i have feelings and i promise to post more tripe if you carry on wink

And mrnelster see that flashing red envelope when you log on to the site,it means you have a personal message so try clicking on it Mr Magoo,jeez your a good advert for spec-savers if i ever saw one.

May be you need a big fat mallet to come out of the top of your PC and hit you on the head to wake you up and tell you that a personal message has arrived.

Thank heavens you aint working for shopto.net answering email queries regarding games,more than likely by the time you would have answered it would have related to a Dreamcast or Nintendo64 or something.tongue

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Im in the saveloy class and you two Chipolata tongue


Party class! Premium pork and well seasoned. wink


In reply to a post by time2die:
Hey stop picking on the old timer i have feelings and i promise to post more tripe if you carry on wink


We consider it a moral duty to encourage the elderly to post as much as possible. It helps give their lives meaning. smile

Besides, the place just wouldn't be the same without ya! grin wink
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LOL, you lot just crack me up you really do.. smile

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i bet you have a smart phone thought! tongue
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i bet you have a smart phone thought! tongue

Actually I don't have one and don't want one smile

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