Well I found one.
ps4 white tho, I think these are harder to shift than black's.
white ps4 with following games all brand new
The list price was £380 and without watchdogs but I had a loyalty discount of 15% and I complained that I wanted the watchdog package for same price so they threw it in inclusive instead of replacing one of the other two games..
I expect tho if I waited out till christmas this console will be under £250 without games or under £300 with games.