The fact is it happened. And regardless of any efforts, or lack thereof on Sony�s part it could well happen again. And it could just as easily have been Xbox live, or Battle.net or Steam. As Schneier put it, �Everyone is probably equally sucky.�

http://m.memeburn.com/2011/06/it%E2%80%99s-not-sony%...

Time to let it go
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There are MILLIONS that have been affected, and they [Sony] still haven't really got peoples confidence back - and no blinking wonder.

Yes, it could've happened to many other firms as you say, but it didn't. Sony customers suffered x2.

They have lost faith in them, and Sony STILL haven't sorted it.

I think the comments after the article you posted up for us to read , say it all .

Sony do have to except a portion of the blame for the worlds biggest hack ever and saying it could of happened to anybody , as an excuse for not blaming Sony , is weak at best .

It happened to Sony because they left the door open .

Sony is the victim. I have no allegiance to Sony. But the comments below the articles are just that. Comments. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. But that doesn't make them right. It was a criminal act that inconvenienced a huge number of people.

The point is, that while the comments keep the uneducated opinions flowing from the armchair anarchists, Sony will always be the victim. Girls wearing short skirts don't deserved to be raped. And I don't expect my data to be stolen because smart arsed no marks don't like Sony.

The point of the analogy is that the girl in the short skirt is as easy to attack as the the girl in the raincoat. The unbiased educated opinions (such as those of people like Kaspersky in the article I posted) know that. Thats their expertise.

What will happen if everybody swaps from Sony to Microsoft? The same thing no doubt. My objection is that people should vote with their feet. I don't need these [censored] to take action on my behalf. I'm comfortable with my own ability to make my own choices and fight my own battles. That's why I don't think these attacks are either clever or cool.

And saying someone is asking for it is an attempt at justification, not a defence. It's a bit like Micheal McIntyre. Funny for a bit, but then you just wish he would stop kicking the [censored] out of it.
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Sure, sony is the victim, a victim of their own negligence.

Whether the attacks that happened occured or not, whether people dislike sony or not, the storage of users personal information in just an open and easily accessible like that is just ridicuously in this day and age.

The analogy of the girl in the skirt is all fine and well, but this is the 21st century and im not a fan of it for various reasons (namely to do with a friend and a girl and a girl who changed her mind dragged him through court only to have it proven she was the one wasting peoples time).

You mention if people swapped from Sony to Microsoft? Thats easy to say what happens, Microsoft will be ground into the floor, their enterprise and business software will take a major blow, they'd lose so much more than sony could ever hope to imagine. It'd be so much worse for microsoft, hence why the same sort of thing would probably be much harder to pull off on microsoft as they have some concept of the word "security".

If anything these people should be thanked ensuring sony doesn't pull this stupidity again, imagine if they were people who where much less caring in their work, Sony would be breached, they wouldnt admit to it until its too late and bam, before you know it your card is being used.

The analogy of the girl in the skirt is all fine and well, but this is the 21st century and im not a fan of it for various reasons (namely to do with a friend and a girl and a girl who changed her mind dragged him through court only to have it proven she was the one wasting peoples time).

This statement alone proves exactly why most of what you say is provocative and ridiculous. Apart from the odd sycophant on this forum, the only people that would truly believe that are chauvinists and rapists.
I think your "friend" is the exception to the average case. Or perhaps you think all victims are wrong and somehow "deserve it". And there I was thinking you simply had a problem with Sony.

I'm not trying to be controversial Falcon. It's plain and simply the rules of a normal civilised society. Leaving yourself open to attack doesn't justify it, full stop. I know it hurts to admit it, but whatever spin you want to put on it, you are wrong.
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Oh really? Seems you are rather rilled over this, I don't see why one would want to white knight such an arrogant corporation to start with.

Whether YOU want to admit it or not to a large degree Sony BROUGHT this on themselves, whats worst of all about it is the manner this stuff was stored, people in glass houses much? What adds to it is that the continued attacks show Sony still hasn't learnt lessons.

Do I think all victims "deserve it"? No, i don't, not unless they bring it on themselves. I like how you are implying that my friend doesn't exist, shame cause he really did go through hell with the legal system, discard it if you want, you obviously love wearing your rose tinted glasses. For those who are truly the victim of a crime, no matter if its rape/theft/murder, etc its truly horrid they went through it, but for all those genuine victims there are people who are very bit to blame for what may or may not have happened to them.

Normal civilised society, lol... What you saying is true to the degree that its based on a perfect world model, but guess what, the world isn't perfect, shock horror. Apologise if you lose sleep over that revelation. A normal civilised society goes on the principle of black and white, the world is very much grey.

If you trust so much in what you say why not leave your house doors and windows open and unalarmed? Its equally applicable to this and the very message you are trying to peddle home. Put that "normal civilised society" to the test, I bet you wouldnt, so i don't see why its not a reasonable expecation of companies responsible for MILLIONS of other users data to keep it locked up and safe.

How would you feel if it was say, the UK government who leaked your information? or your bank? etc, would you still defend them if their security was equally as poor? Hoping on a wing and a pray that even though they had no security it in place someone doesnt come calling for it.

The correct course of events would have been to inform Sony of their security weaknesses, and if no action taken, inform the media.

Taking data was criminal. Theft to prove security weakness is never anything but theft. How a company conducts itself is up to the company as long as it does so within the law. Customers are free to choose them or others as they see fit.

People who believe that corporations should be targetted because of their size need to stop and consider a few things. The amount of wealth to employees which might be at stake. The livelihoods of the employees. The costs to end users if costs are incurred by criminal acts against them. And so on. Don't like Microsoft? Don't buy their products. Are BP too big? Shop at Shell. PC World is over-charging? Find a competitor.

How would you feel if it was say, the UK government who leaked your information? or your bank?

A leak is completely different from data theft, in that it's an inside job, but it's still a theft, and not the company's actions or policy, but the actions of one or more employees.

Sony were informed months before, they took no action. What do you think contacting the media would have done? Given their network was so open it would have done nothing but draw attention to it. More so pretty much every major corporation should be running internal network checks to ensure network protection. Its rather amazing they made it this far without a breach.

If information is leaked, just because its out there doesn not mean it won't be used for malicious purposes, pretty much any data out in the public would end up traded and used against what the people involved would want.

Leak/theft/breach/compromised, etc no matter what you call it it means that information has entered the public domain that should have otherwise been kept secure.

Couldn't agree more.
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