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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 09-Jul-09 21:45:59
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Hi

Can anyone explain what criteria BT are using to roll out FTC to exchanges around the UK?

The three announcements so far, have mentioned a cluster of exchanges in North Bristol.

These areas already have access to Virgin's 50M service and cover purely urban areas.

Other nearby exchanges that cover much larger areas and with much poorer broadband and could benefit much more from this technology are not mentioned.

I am sure that BT have a plan for rolling out FTC, I just cannot fathom it.

Any clues would be appreciated.

Simon
Standard User 12eason
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 09-Jul-09 21:51:52
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(Unregistered)Thu 09-Jul-09 21:53:24
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That was my initial guess!


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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Thu 09-Jul-09 21:55:27
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Can anyone explain what criteria BT are using to roll out FTC to exchanges around the UK?
Money spent versus money earned.

A standard business calculation known as RoI (Return on Investment). It's the process of calculating how much it will cost to do something (investment) and how much money the result will earn (Return).

There are many factors that impact the cost and the return and only BT know what the factors are. In generally though:High population density and few cabinets. Backhaul availability is probably also an issue. No point rolling out FTTC if the backhaul is already straining to service ADSL.

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Standard User rogan8
(knowledge is power) Thu 09-Jul-09 22:28:09
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And to that end , where CP's want to be able to supply the service 1st.
Presumably as Virgin cable is the only large scale supplier of superfast broadband they are the main target and threat to existing xDSL suppliers.
Standard User zebedeee
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Jul-09 22:49:54
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It's the criteria that BT always use - maximum return for minimum outlay.

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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Thu 09-Jul-09 22:58:25
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You seem to be thinking BT aim to provide a public service.

The answer to your question is surely that they have to roll it out in the Virgin 50M areas asap, else they lose huge numbers for many years. So they have to concentrate on that sort of area.

Remember it is only cable that provides true competition. All landline LLU ISPs have to pay BT OpenReach for use of the line (and presumably exchange space) plus engineering charges, and non-LLU are going through BT Wholesale at ridiculously high prices.

Then there is income from whatever phone calls/rental supplier the user signs up to, even if it isn't BT Retail.

So BT gets a nice rake-off from everything but cable, even if BT Retail gets neither the broadband or phone contracts from the user.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 10-Jul-09 05:37:19
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logically I think it also be good to rollout in areas where lines are of poor quality (high attenuation).

Is it easier to sell a up to 40meg service to someone who cannot even get 5mbit or to someone who already gets 20mbit?

I dont know much about the areas BT have picked so its hard for me to draw many conclusions I suppose, but I am shocked that my region has only 2 exchanges planned, there must be a reason for it. My guess is proximity to POP's is a major factor perhaps bigger than some think, if BT are deliberatly trying to find exchanges with not many cabinets then these exchanges will typically either be (a) low population or/and (b) a lot of properties close to exchange with direct feed which to me does not make sense. I would have thought areas with troublesome demographics such as canals and rivers and with high population would be prime choice as the impact would be bigger.
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 10-Jul-09 05:39:09
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pobably explains why openreach is maintaining healthy profits as their income isnt really affected no matter what the customer is using.
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(knowledge is power) Fri 10-Jul-09 07:35:51
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I would have thought areas with troublesome demographics such as canals and rivers and with high population would be prime choice as the impact would be bigger.
Berkhamsted runs along both sides of a valley and has a canal at the bottom. From memory it's not particularly large though. It's mostly just somewhere for Londoners to sleep.

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