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Standard User MrBeeline
(member) Wed 02-Feb-11 21:55:23
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Speed query ... somethings changed (for the good?).


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Hi folks

Not 100% sure what's just happened. So thought that I'd seek some expert opinion.

Been with Newnet for a couple of years now (ADSL MAX up to 8Mbps).

Up till about a day ago I always syc'd at 8,096Kbps with a 7000K profile according to BT speed tester. Attn has always been 33/34dB and SNM varies between 6 and 9 dB (evening/daytime). Line usually stays up around 20/30 days until FECs appear to build up high enough and then it re-sets.

Well. Router just stayed up for what must be a record now (46 days I think) and just noticed that it has re-syn'd. But.... stats now say:

Uptime: 0 days, 19:59:03
Modulation: G.992.1 Annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 8,128
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 15.91 / 95.75
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 19.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 17.5 / 33.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 22.0 / 6.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / µ
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 12 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 3 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 4,377 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 4,965
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1,808

So good news is that my sync speed appears to now be the max obtainable on ADSL max. But.... I see that the FEC count is zero! Never seen this before! Does this now mean that the exchange thinks my line is good enough to remove interleaving?

Have not yet been able to run BT speed tester (what's new I suppose in the evening). But all other testers (including this sites) seems to be indicating a 2Mbps download speed! Though obviously maybe not representative in the evening. Though always before (even in the evening) it's been 4Mbps or above. So just wondering what's going on???

Obviously need to try and run BT speed tester tomorrow morning (just wondering what my IP profile is now!), maybe more luck then.

Any thoughts anyone?

I'm amazed if this line can support anwhere near the max speed with interleaving off!!
(if this "is" the case).

PS. Best part of 3km as the crow flies from the exchange and some 3.5 km by road (which I know is where the cable runs).

PPS. Can't help but notice that my error seconds, CRC and HEC errors are climbing quite fast now (did not used to). Why O why can't BT leave things alone!!!

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Mike

Edited by MrBeeline (Wed 02-Feb-11 22:25:01)

Standard User MHC
(legend) Wed 02-Feb-11 23:37:34
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Re: Speed query ... somethings changed (for the good?).


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Possibly a long term noise source was turned off and with the re-sync you are seeing the benefits.

A couple of suggestions. You say errors are now starting to climb - that could be down to two possible things. It has now gotten dark and atmospheric noise increases and with that you will be getting some pick up on the lines and thus corruption of the data, or the noise source has returned.

Try running RouterStatsLite to monitor the SNR figures over a 24 hour period with samples every minute.





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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 02-Feb-11 23:55:20
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Re: Speed query ... somethings changed (for the good?).


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Which exchange is it? The link to what samknows says would be ideal.

You may have been switched to an ADSL2+ connection with an ADSL Max profile.

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Standard User MrBeeline
(member) Thu 03-Feb-11 00:16:26
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Re: Speed query ... somethings changed (for the good?).


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Dalbeattie, Scotland.

I think you once commented that you had never seen so many red crosses on an exchange report before!

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WSDAL

PS. Given up trying to coax BT speed tester to work. I'll try again tomorrow.

PPS. Someone once (maybe a bit cruelly) described where I live as "the [censored] end of nowhere"!

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Mike

Edited by MrBeeline (Thu 03-Feb-11 00:17:18)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 03-Feb-11 00:36:48
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Re: Speed query ... somethings changed (for the good?).


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Yes, I rmember saying that now smile.

Well unless sam has still to catch up it isn't what I suggested, and I don't think it will be IPSC either, (the last I heard they weren't using that I don't think), or even if that could cause what you have observed.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Thu 03-Feb-11 06:08:38
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You should be able to get 8128 on that attenuation with interleaving if your modem has the appropriate capability (which it has if it went over 7616 with interleaving).

Normally there's an indication of Fastpath or Interleaved on the user interface, what's the hardware ? (or did I fail to spot it)

Phil

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Standard User MrBeeline
(member) Thu 03-Feb-11 14:11:35
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Re: Speed query ... somethings changed (for the good?).


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Fair enough. But with zero FECs being logged, I'm assuming Interleaving is switched off now. Always been on before.

Can't see any indication on the interleaving state on the router info page/s. Can I get this info. from DMT???

It's a Thomson SpeedTouch 585v6. Usually holds the connection well.

Finally got the BT speed tester to work and as I half expected!!!!!!!!!!!

Download speedachieved during the test was - 1819 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 400-2000 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :8128 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 2000 Kbps

So I now appear to have a 2000 kbps IP profile!

Any suggestions anyone as to what might have happened and where I can go from now?
Thanks in advance.

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Mike

Edited by MrBeeline (Thu 03-Feb-11 14:12:49)

ISP Representative BT_Care
(isp) Thu 03-Feb-11 16:56:35
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Hi MrBeeline,

Provided your connection remains on for 3/5 days the IP profile will increase automatically (and subsequently the throughput), let us know how you get on.

Stephanie
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Standard User MrBeeline
(member) Thu 03-Feb-11 17:53:09
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Thanks for that.

I'll keep you posted.

PS. VERY impressed that a BT rep. looks at this site.

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Mike

Edited by MrBeeline (Thu 03-Feb-11 17:54:07)

Standard User MrBeeline
(member) Sat 05-Feb-11 13:44:09
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Best part of 2 days now and still stuck on 2000k IP profile. O'hum..

Considering that I've not really been using it too much ( I've been waiting to kick off a couple of BIG multi GB downloads). Starting to get a little worried by the number of "error seconds" that I've received so far! I still think them taking Interleaving off this line (considering the distance to the exchange etc. and that I used to clock up some 1,000,000 FEC errors a week!) was not a good move by BT.

Current stats look like
Link Information

Uptime: 1 day, 18:36:55
Modulation: G.992.1 Annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 8,128
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 24.23 / 154.81
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 19.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 18.0 / 33.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 22.0 / 5.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / µ
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 1,189 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 36 / 3,339
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 12 / 1,727

Just got to wait and see I suppose. Not a happy man at the moment.

PS. Storms last night also blew my SKY dish off the roof! Life...

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Mike

Edited by MrBeeline (Sat 05-Feb-11 13:47:17)

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