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Standard User Drumhum
(member) Sun 06-Mar-11 22:28:30
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High speed, dedicated (leased?) line >50Mb/s info required


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I want to get more informed on the subject of dedicated fibre lines used by businesses to get fast broadband to 100+ workers. "leased lines"?

I am told by my current employers that they have a dedicated fibre line and it gives them 20Mb/s. The speed is somewhat limiting and it makes some types of work troublesome (such as large file transfers offsite). My employer hosts its own email servers and intranet on site which is also accessed by 9 or 10 regional offices around the country. I am sure you can see that a 20Mb/s line is a little underpowered for 100 workers plus regional office access - even considering that 20Mb/s is SDSL.

I would have thought that if they have a fibre line then there would be an option to increase the speed (at a cost) but I am told this is impossible due to "line length". I cannot see how line length can be an issue for fibre but I guess there could be another reason for a 20Mb/s max. Any ideas? The location of the company is somewhat rural, about 8 miles from a major town.

I guess what I am really asking is, what are the options available to medium sized businesses wrt dedicated, specialist high speed internet links?

I want to learn more about this whole subject so if there are any good web links etc...


Thanks in advance
Standard User mattewan
(learned) Sun 06-Mar-11 23:02:14
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Who provides the leased line?

We have an ntl business DIA (Dedicated Internet Access) Line....

Now the only reason we can't upgrade is if we are running at 10mbps on a 10mbps bearer.... in which case we would need to upgrade to a 100bmps bearer, then we could up our bandwidth to, for example, 20mbps.

I can't see how this could be the case with you though... as i though the bearer speeds are 10mbps, 100mbps, 1gbps, etc, so if you are already getting 20mbps then I thought upgrading to say, 30mbps would be possible.

bear in mind, the cost is also expensive. Our 10bmps connection costs almost a grand a month.

Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 06-Mar-11 23:05:59
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It is possible that it could be some sort of EFM based solution meaning changing the line rate isn't as simple as a commit change on say a 100Mbit bearer as already explained by another poster.

Might want to check if the solution is actually fibre as generally it would be 100Mb or 1000Mb.

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Standard User Drumhum
(member) Sun 06-Mar-11 23:54:56
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Re: High speed, dedicated (leased?) line >50Mb/s info requir


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I have no idea who provides the line, sorry. I don't work in the IT dept and I only have what they tell me to go on. To be frank, IT have a habit of taking down to folk outside of their dept so I have my doubts to the accuracy of what I know! (I can't blame their attitude to the "plebs" - it would drive me nuts in an IT support role!)

I'm pretty savvy when it comes to consumer broadband but I've little knowledge on the leased line/business/corporate stuff. I'd like to be a bit more on IT's level so I can talk to them more as an equal. Apparently there is some Jedi test you have to pass before they let you into their "inner circle".

I'm guessing: "bearer" is a sort of digital pipe that provides a particular max speed. Moving up from say 20Mbps to 40Mbps would cost extra but to go higher than 100Mbps would cost a heck of a lot more as you'd be upgrading that pipe - or "bearer". Do these bearers have any relation to the physical line? I mean would you need extra fibre or different hardware to access the faster bearers?

And another question - does geographic location (eg to exchange) have any bearing on what a business can get in terms of high speed links?


Humble thanks.
Standard User Drumhum
(member) Mon 07-Mar-11 00:03:56
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It is possible that it could be some sort of EFM based solution


I've just looked up EFM!

Could be. As I said we a located in a (large-ish) village with its own exchange but some distance from large town exchange. In the past three months we have had at least three days downtime (proper zero internet for 24hrs, type downs), which makes me wonder if we are using something at its limits (like copper!). There has been talk of "distance" issues too, which I didn't think mattered so much to fibre.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 07-Mar-11 00:17:21
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with fibre optics speed is not a function of distance (within reason) whereas with copper based solutions it is, or the range of fixed speed services is limited.

The "bearer" thing is because the physical capacity is often well above the contracted capacity. Ethernet services over fibre probably come on either 100 or 1000M but you can contract for any throughput less than or equal to that.

Phil

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Mar-11 22:21:43
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Could it be that your IT bods are talking out of their elbows ? 'Bearer' is a term often used to describe the copper pair between the exchange and the premises, and could it be that '20 meg,' is in fact an 'up to' 20 meg product, ie normal broadband.

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