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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 11-Mar-11 21:06:01
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Questions about 21CN


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I want to start doing streams on popular streaming websites and now that my exchange has 21CN I thought that I may as well benefit from the 1.4 upload (currently 832k)

My current ISP is ADSL24 on Office 45. It is ok but I believe a change to an ISP such as Xilo would be beneficial. Some questions relating to the change -

1. How is 21CN set up? I knew that on Entanet (and also MurphX?) it is nodes put around the UK. My line never suffered any congestion problems since the Scottish nodes (one in Glasgow and Edinburgh) seemed to be enough. If I change to 21CN am I going to suffer from congestion if all the processing is done in say London for example? Obviously the best case scenario is nodes like 20CN.

2. Xilo have a tough choice but someone here might be able to clarify the decision. They have an Office 40 package at £23.49 (excl VAT) so £28.19 in total. They then have a Home 50 package at £26.03. The Home package seems the best choice but I recall there being something about priority at the exchange for Office products. Is this still relevant with 21CN and if so, how much of a real world difference on a network that seems to not have an issue with congestion?

3. How strict is the 200 GB FUP on Xilo? Is like 210 GB going to be acceptable?

Thanks
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 11-Mar-11 21:35:16
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Have a look at Zen, the do not count uploads in your allowance.
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(Unregistered)Fri 11-Mar-11 21:57:19
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My only gripe with Zen would be no off peak usage. By the time I obtained my weekly TV shows over the month I would have nothing left.


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Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 11-Mar-11 22:17:46
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2) Office has higher priority than Home.

3) If you constantly exceed it, we may contact you but now and again, you'll be fine.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 11-Mar-11 23:05:15
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Thanks Matt.

Anyone got specific answers to question 1? Just curious.
Standard User Ribble
(regular) Sat 12-Mar-11 00:17:04
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http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchanges/21cn_ove...
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 12-Mar-11 10:16:39
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Which exchange is it please? The link to what samknows says about it would be ideal.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 12-Mar-11 17:34:54
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Any answer to 1 is almost out of date by the time they type it.

A node may not be congested now, but might be if a few weeks....

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Standard User krazykizza
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 12-Mar-11 18:07:14
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Additional capacity (in terms of connectivity to the node) gets added all the time. But whether the individual ISPs keep up with pace is another question!

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 12-Mar-11 22:13:00
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In reply to a post by krazykizza:
Additional capacity (in terms of connectivity to the node) gets added all the time. But whether the individual ISPs keep up with pace is another question!
I think it's the second part of your answer that is the more relevant; ie the ISP has to have sufficient MSIL capacity that is usable at a non-penal rate for exceeding the contracted amount.

However the Entanet problem was very much down to them going for WBC not WBMC, plus a BT policy decision at the last moment to do excess usage billing by the node, not overall. Allied to the fact that individual MSANs can be routed (on a fixed basis) to non-obvious nodes and not being able to get details of that routing from BT.

As a result they had an almost impossible task finding the correct capacity at each node.

ISPs using WBMC don't have that problem. They just need to contract for enough.

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