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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Tue 28-Jun-11 12:02:50
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NZB indexing sites to be blocked by IWF?


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The Motion Picture Association is taking BT to court in an attempt to get them to block access to Newzbin (a usenet indexing site). They propose that BT use its current IWF filter to facilitate blocking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13927335

Oliver.
Standard User Wonko
(committed) Tue 28-Jun-11 13:34:16
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Re: NZB indexing sites to be blocked by IWF?


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If they are going to pass this, then we may as well close the internet in the UK now.

There is nothing on that site that I couldn't find using goggle, or countless other sites.

Complete waste of time and money.

If they really wanted to stop it, then why not go after usenet binary access and providers, even if they win (against this website), then people go elsewhere, makes no sense.

Edited by Wonko (Tue 28-Jun-11 13:52:21)

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(Unregistered)Tue 28-Jun-11 14:24:25
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Filter evasion

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Tue 28-Jun-11 14:28:46
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Re: NZB indexing sites to be blocked by IWF?


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I hope they loose! If they want to stop it then go for the organisation running the site not the delivery agent.

BT tries to remain neutral - with "child porn" being the exception and they should be allowed to stay that way.

If the MPA win, then BT should be allowed to charge all of their legal fees to the MPA along with the costs of initially implementing and then maintaining a ban - we as service users should not be forced to pay for the activities of others.





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Standard User AEP
(knowledge is power) Tue 28-Jun-11 15:37:59
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Re: NZB indexing sites to be blocked by IWF?


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I doubt that it's going to cost BT significantly. How difficult is it to add one more site to the list of blocked ones? Unless some voluntary means can be found to stop people ripping off other people's work this is going to be forced on us, like it or not. It may be "our Net", but those aren't "our Films". What would you say if there was a web site fencing stolen antiques? Would that be OK?
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 28-Jun-11 17:39:56
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In reply to a post by Oliver341:
The Motion Picture Association is taking BT to court in an attempt to get them to block access to Newzbin (a usenet indexing site). They propose that BT use its current IWF filter to facilitate blocking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13927335
Yet more of our liberties being eroded , Why are government pandering to the film & music industries every whim, i say don't start down this censorship road, on behalf of any big greedy corporate body,
I for one don't buy music or films, why is this? well for a kick off it simply is not worth what the want for it, most films are rubbish and the same goes for the music too, there is no quality anymore,
And blocking any sites they choose to won't stop people accessing them and doing as they did before, and the IWF should not be used to protect corporates it is their only for child protection,not for other stuff, hell isp's can't get the filtering correct as things currently are, Cam moron aka mandelscum better start looking for a new job come the next election he will be needing one, oh i forgot he probably won't need to work will he,
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 28-Jun-11 19:13:59
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They are not stolen movies though, they are copied.

What would you say if there was a web site selling replica antiques? Would that be OK?
Standard User AEP
(knowledge is power) Tue 28-Jun-11 19:19:53
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I'm not quite sure that analogy holds. That's more akin to someone making their own version of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and then making that available for free. I'd have no problem with that.

What about software. Is it OK to put, say, the latest games online for people to download for free?
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Jun-11 21:05:29
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Re: NZB indexing sites to be blocked by IWF?


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In reply to a post by Oliver341:
The Motion Picture Association is taking BT to court in an attempt to get them to block access to Newzbin (a usenet indexing site). They propose that BT use its current IWF filter to facilitate blocking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13927335


curious are they taking any non uk isps to court? somethign special about this country that even tho we already have the toughest copyright legislation worldwide we keep getting special attention for more.
Standard User AEP
(knowledge is power) Tue 28-Jun-11 21:15:01
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Well, it's a really a continuation of previous action that they took against the site in UK courts. At that time the site was hosted in the UK; now it's moved to the Seychelles. It's logical to start such action in the UK where judges have already ruled against the site and so may be seen as being more amenable. It makes sense to start with just one test case.

No doubt if this action succeeds they will also take action in other jurisdictions. But if they fail here, where they might reasonable expect to have the best chance of success, it may not be worth their while to go to court elsewhere.
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