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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 10:04:30
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OFCOM introduce Market 1 price controls


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on IPStream Connect 8M services currently used by BT Retail, TalkTalk, Sky, Orange,
Virgin Media and Entanet

Prices to fall in real terms over coming years, about 11% less than inflation.

http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2011/07/20/better-value-ru...

Phil

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Jul-11 10:20:25
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Re: OFCOM introduce Market 1 price controls


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Don't you love it regulator has two slightly different pages on same issue...

http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2011/07/better-value-r...
http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2011/07/20/better-value-ru...

Just written news item, which John should pop up soon.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 10:27:13
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Re: OFCOM introduce Market 1 price controls


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presumably http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk is the "Dumb Britain" version with a picture.

Phil

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Standard User anon1
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 20-Jul-11 10:55:35
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Re: OFCOM introduce Market 1 price controls


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At that rate how long before OFCOM think BT should pay the other suppliers for using their service?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Jul-11 10:57:08
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Well if BT doesn't like the price cuts, roll out more WBC and remove the IPStream

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 11:02:16
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Re: OFCOM introduce Market 1 price controls


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the news item isn't clear about the single specific product - IPStream Connect 8M services currently used by BT Retail, TalkTalk, Sky, Orange, Virgin Media and Entanet

Phil

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Jul-11 11:16:28
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Re: OFCOM introduce Market 1 price controls


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IPStream Connect, i.e. implemented using 21CN/WBC hardware I think is exempt.
Only lines running IPStream Max on the older DSLAM's.
In an exchange where both kits are available, only if using ADSL on the old hardware will the reduction apply.

Only once the accountants at each ISP have done their sums will we see any changes. Those with most opportunity for a price cut would be those who are surcharged for being on a non-LLU exchange by e.g. O2, Sky, TalkTalk

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 11:23:10
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Re: OFCOM introduce Market 1 price controls


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IPStream Connect, i.e. implemented using 21CN/WBC hardware I think is exempt.


I think you have the wrong end of the stick. From OFCOM PR on web site :-

"Charge control only BT's IPStream Connect Max and Max Premium products"

"Scope of the charge control the majority of stakeholders agreed with the our proposal to charge control IPStream Connect only"

see also original consultation document. Argument was that over 80% of Market 1 consumers are on IPStream Connect anyway.

Phil

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 11:23:53
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1.9 Our decision on the WBA charge control to be applied in Market 1 is as set out in this statement. This statement constitutes our impact assessment.
We are charge controlling BT's 8Mbit/s IPStream Connect product
1.10 We are imposing this charge control on the IPStream Connect 8Mbit/s (Max and Max Premium) product only. It is the maximum downstream speed currently available and the product most used by end users in Market 1. We conclude therefore that charge controlling this product directly protects most consumers in Market 1 and constrains BT from excessive charging on the other products available in Market 1.


Phil

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Jul-11 11:28:30
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Re: OFCOM introduce Market 1 price controls


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I know - wrong way around in what I said...more coffee needed.

I remember the days when the market was simpler and did not need to be an accountant to work out the implications of price changes.

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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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