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Standard User garybrett
(newbie) Thu 20-Oct-11 13:57:40
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Xilo or AAISP for business ADSL


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Hi, looking for feedback really if anyone can assist? We are a small business of 5 users, have several Site2Site VPNs, Exchange & couple of low traffic websites internally. Our current ISP [Star] can only offer 1.3Mbps download and .36Kbps upload so have terminated with the need to sort another provider soon.

I had been told by nearby large offices that BT cabling around here is shoddy to say the least with no repairs likely due to BT rolling out Fiber, the same offices have now moved to leased lines, they had had enough!

Have read good reports about Xilo & AAISP, both offer multiple Static IPs, great service and decent pricing, if the line into the buildings itself is faulty would these providers be able to offer better speeds than I have been having?

SamKnows reports the following even though BT FTTC apparently hasn't been "turned on" locally!

The following services are available in your location:

BT Wholesale ADSL
BT Wholesale ADSL Max
BT Wholesale WBC (21CN)
BT FTTC
AOL LLU
O2 / Be LLU
Bulldog LLU
TalkTalk (CPW) LLU
Sky Broadband / Easynet LLU

Any feedback appreciated.
Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Oct-11 14:23:05
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Re: Xilo or AAISP for business ADSL


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If the current line is still active, can you post some stats from it, from the router such as sync rate, attenuation and noise margin?

Matt

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Standard User garybrett
(newbie) Thu 20-Oct-11 14:38:37
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Re: Xilo or AAISP for business ADSL


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Hi Matt, would love to but Star do not allow end users access to the routers, if anything goes wrong they dial in to diagnose. It doesn't matter so much for us, we only want it to pass data down to our hardware firewall which does all the routing.

Downside is, whenever I ask about the slow speeds they simply reboot router, say its a BT line issue which I cant check! They have offered a BT engineer visit at our cost however! I will ask them this afternoon for those stats but usually dont see a response for a while.

Current line is still active until 9th December but want to migrate asap.

Cheers


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Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Oct-11 14:42:05
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Re: Xilo or AAISP for business ADSL


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Oh dear.

I see two possible options. Ask them for that data - I don't see any reason why they wouldn't give it to you.

or

Just get another router and plug in to the DSL line for a few minutes. Does not need the login details, but it'll show the sync rate and line data that will be helpful in diagnosing if the speed issue is an ISP problem or just limitations of the line. Once done, plug the old one in and no one will be much the wiser.

Matt

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Standard User garybrett
(newbie) Thu 20-Oct-11 15:04:11
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Re: Xilo or AAISP for business ADSL


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Thanks Matt, I have requested the information so here's hoping, I don't have a spare router in this office so no joy with option 2?

Have you previously used Xilo or AAISP?

regards

Gary
Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Oct-11 15:05:22
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Re: Xilo or AAISP for business ADSL


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We are the former... just with a different name.

Check http://www.xilo.net/adsl_broadband/ , you'll see our broadband brand on that page.

Matt

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Edited by uno (Thu 20-Oct-11 17:12:40)

Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Thu 20-Oct-11 17:11:19
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Hey Matt the comma after the forward slash in your Xilo link needs to be removed.

Alastair

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Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Oct-11 17:12:54
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Oops. Thank you for letting me know.

Matt

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Thu 20-Oct-11 18:31:33
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Which exchange is that line served from ?

Standard User garybrett
(newbie) Thu 20-Oct-11 19:05:07
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Hi, its the Orton exchange in Peterborough?

Matt, stats they gave me are:

BT ADSL Max Premium
Interleaving enabled, Target Noise Margin 6db.
Current BRAS profile: adsl1750-b (1750Kbps)
 
ADSL Mode and Sync Rates
DSL standard: ADSL_G.dmt
near-end interleaved channel bit rate: 2176 kbps
far-end interleaved channel bit rate: 704 kbps
 
Downstream Link Information:
noise margin downstream: 6 db
output power upstream: 11 db
attenuation downstream: 59 db
carrier load: number of bits per symbol(tone)
tone   0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone  32- 63: 00 00 00 99 99 a9 aa aa 9a 9a 99 88 67 66 75 85
tone  64- 95: 06 28 87 88 88 78 67 77 66 66 76 76 76 77 77 76
tone  96-127: 23 57 77 77 67 66 66 66 65 66 66 66 65 54 43 22
tone 128-159: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 160-191: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 192-223: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 224-255: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 256-287: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 288-319: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 320-351: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 352-383: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 384-415: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 416-447: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 448-479: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 480-511: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 
Upstream Link Information:
noise margin upstream: 5 db
output power downstream: 15 db
attenuation upstream: 31 db
carrier load: number of bits per symbol(tone)
tone   0- 31: 00 00 00 06 88 99 9a a9 aa aa 99 99 88 88 77 00
tone  32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone  64- 95: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone  96-127: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 128-159: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 160-191: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 192-223: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 224-255: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 256-287: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 288-319: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 320-351: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 352-383: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 384-415: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 416-447: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 448-479: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 480-511: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 
Please note that the BRAS profile is what ultimately governs throughput on the downstream and that this will be subject to change over time. Additionally, the actual noise margins given for the upstream and downstream above will vary throughout the day and the above is a snapshot of the circuit at present.
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