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Standard User rockyray85
(newbie) Thu 29-Dec-11 13:42:30
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PSD Masks and what they're for


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Hi all,

I'm looking for a simple explanation that would clarify as to what exactly is a PSD mask used for when implementing a xDSL network.
From what I understand, PSD Masks are basically used to "mark" the frequencies (or bound them) to specific limits.
I'm sure I'm not quite there, but with a bit of help I'll finally be able to understand this.

New to the forum, so If I'm asking in the wrong area, please forgive me... smile
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Thu 29-Dec-11 15:31:12
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PSD means power spectral density to me.
A PSD mask ? Maybe to shield the line/equipment in question from crosstalk or REIN ?

I'm sure some clever [censored] will tell us shortly ! smile

Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Thu 29-Dec-11 15:32:37
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Something to do with the frequencies that are legal to use in different countries maybe? Not an acronym I've seen mentioned on this site before.

EDIT: Or could start with a google

Edited by ian72 (Thu 29-Dec-11 15:33:47)


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Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 29-Dec-11 15:54:49
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Re: PSD Masks and what they're for


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Yes Power Spectral/Spectrum Density ... without going into detail about what it is and how it is calculated, you get a PSD figure for each frequency that is in use (for ADSL/VDSL/or anything else). These are plotted on a graph.

There is an Overlay MASK that sits on the graph and is the boundary figures for that particular technology and the transmissions cannot sit outside. the mask is defined to minimise transmission of interference or cross talk to other lines or services and may, for example have notches where other key transmissions opereate.

Use of a PSD mask with the chip set in the DSLAM brings in Dynamic Spectrum Management and allows continual adjustment of power levels at different frequencies to maximise throughput and minimise interference.





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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Thu 29-Dec-11 16:32:32
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..... Crikey ! I winged it, what do I win ? gringringrin

Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 29-Dec-11 17:11:49
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
..... Crikey ! I winged it, what do I win ? gringringrin



An appointment to sort out my Infinity connection!





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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 29-Dec-11 19:11:20
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Often helps to say *why* you're asking.

For example, ANFP might be relevant to the answer.

Or might not.

Who knows?
Standard User mr_bean
(member) Fri 30-Dec-11 11:20:58
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The idea - when applied to VDSL from the cabinet - is to reduce the power in the frequency bands also used by ADSL to about the same level that the ADSL signals which have travelled from the exchange have when they reach the cabinet.

If you don't do this the ADSL lines get swamped by crosstalk in the cabinet from the VDSL signal which originated just metres away and would therefore at a much higher amplitude if not for power spectrum management.

Thus each cabinet will have a different mask (in practice one of a set of pre-determined profiles rather than totally unique to each cab) depending on its distance from the exchange,
Standard User MHC
(legend) Fri 30-Dec-11 11:35:56
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That is one specific application.

There are also masks for ADSL, ADSL Max, ADSL2 &c

and away from xDSL they are used in many other RF based systems.





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Standard User mr_bean
(member) Fri 30-Dec-11 12:16:19
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That is one specific application.
Nod - which is why I said "when applied to VDSL from the cabinet" - this is an xDSL forum after all smile.

Your explanation was perfect - I just thought an example might help people to understand a practical application.
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