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Standard User Pillzandskillz
(newbie) Tue 06-Mar-12 09:55:11
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Are they the real deal? Or are they just as bad as everyone


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Now ive had a total of 4 ISPS until i found the best one , and that was ZEN , i noticed when i was playing games professionally online ZENs speeds where constant . ping was stable , no packetloss , no high gitter. It felt like playing on a LAN hookup. I was able to do things in my game i wasn't before , movement felt smoother and shooting felt quicker.

Now a lot of you would consider that a placebo affect but i assure you it wasn't because now ive switched providers ive lost all that smooth movement , the game feels slower and i shoot slower.

My hardware is top notch and i take care of it to a Grade A degree so please don't go pointing to my system. Having played this game for 5 years i can spot a single glitch on it.

Now what exactly was ZEN giving me that my current ISP isn't , because my current ISP is well known to be a re-seller and im on there BE product at present , fault was put forward to a brand router i had bought , i was almost positive i saw no change when i was sent another router to see if it made any changes.

My questions are:

Whats the disadvantages of being on a re sellers connection?

Why was zen performing better?
Standard User john2007
(legend) Tue 06-Mar-12 10:00:38
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Some Be/O2 users are suffering packet loss to some sites. Can you change your external IP address (or ask your reseller to do it on your behalf)? The packet loss seems to affect only some Be/O2 IP addresses.
Standard User Pillzandskillz
(newbie) Tue 06-Mar-12 10:11:08
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In reply to a post by john2007:
Some Be/O2 users are suffering packet loss to some sites. Can you change your external IP address (or ask your reseller to do it on your behalf)? The packet loss seems to affect only some Be/O2 IP addresses.


Ive been told already by them , theres no sign of packetloss what so ever. With zen i was on a BT phoneline , hooked up on BT equipment using zens hardware , ADSL2+. With this current ISP , im hooked up to LLU BE equipment not using BTS equipment.


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Standard User john2007
(legend) Tue 06-Mar-12 10:18:40
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Have you checked yourself for packet loss?

Just ping and/or tracert the site you use,

e.g. from a Windows command prompt

ping bbc.co.uk

or

tracert bbc.co.uk
Standard User Pillzandskillz
(newbie) Tue 06-Mar-12 10:27:53
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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\hehe>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms lns6.uan.the.uk.murphx.net [94.30.127.77]
3 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms er1.uan.the.uk.murphx.net [94.30.127.65]
4 14 ms 14 ms 18 ms ge2-6-1.crs1.core.the.uk.murphx.net [94.30.127.2
25]
5 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms te1-4.cr05.te1.bb.gxn.net [62.72.139.29]
6 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms vl3952.cr05.tn5.bb.gxn.net [62.72.137.9]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms ae1.er01.rbsov.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.46]
10 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 132.185.255.134
11 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 212.58.241.131

Trace complete.

C:\Users\hehe>
Standard User john2007
(legend) Tue 06-Mar-12 11:00:02
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That seem fine. The nodes at steps 7 and 8 are probably configured not to respond to pings.

You should ping and/or tracert the gaming site you use. If the tracert looks ok perhaps ping the site for 10 minutes or so to see if there is packet loss.
Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 06-Mar-12 11:13:36
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I use Murphx through Xilo and these pings to BBC are identical to my line.

The lowest I have ever had.

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Xilo.net Office 8Mb
Standard User Pillzandskillz
(newbie) Tue 06-Mar-12 12:53:17
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Yeah ive got a good consistent speed and decent ping , but again the performance in game doesn't match what it did with zen , im just trying to figure out why. Im not bashing any ISP im merely inquiring..
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 06-Mar-12 14:08:25
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In reply to a post by john2007:
Some Be/O2 users are suffering packet loss to some sites. Can you change your external IP address (or ask your reseller to do it on your behalf)? The packet loss seems to affect only some Be/O2 IP addresses.
If the op is on a BE Wholesale connection then He will Not have a Be retail IP address this is because the wholesale product is a completely independent entity to that of BE/O2 retail everything apart from the DSLAM at the exchange
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 06-Mar-12 14:16:39
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In reply to a post by Pillzandskillz:
Yeah ive got a good consistent speed and decent ping , but again the performance in game doesn't match what it did with zen , im just trying to figure out why. Im not bashing any ISP im merely inquiring..
Download a free app called pingplotter or Win MTR , and set it to ping the ip of the game server , it could be that there is a lot of jitter on one or more of the peering links outside your isp's network, the jitter if excessive enough will cause these fluctuations in latency It's likely that your new isp uses different peering to what zen used , it's unlikely that you will be able to do anything to change the way you get routed apart from switching isp. but then it would be pot luck
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