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Standard User vit0
(regular) Mon 12-Mar-12 17:41:00
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VDSL Faceplate


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Hi,

I had FTTC installed on Friday, this is via an MPF line so there are no other services on it. BT installed a new master socket and the Cellpipe modem is plugged straight in via a VDSL micro-filter. I'm just wondering if there's any point in getting a VDSL faceplate such as:
http://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/btvdslfaceplate.html

Cheers,

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 12-Mar-12 17:45:25
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Re: VDSL Faceplate


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Picture of your VDSL micro-filter please?

The run-it link is what Openreach usually install onto a Master socket. Though most good existing ADSL2+ compatible microfilters should do the job perfectly well.

Also what do you mean by MPF Line with no other services? MPF usually means both voice and xDSL are supplied via LLU hardware in the exchange.

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Standard User vit0
(regular) Tue 13-Mar-12 22:00:28
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Re: VDSL Faceplate


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It's my understanding that the line goes to the BT cab and then is directly connected to the Thales (Digital Region) cab and does not touch BT. There is no dialtone on the line as it was only provisioned for VDSL. The OR engineer rang Thales to confirm it was working and not BT.

Anywayyyyyyyy, I can't easily take a photo of the micro-filter as the room that the master socket is in has no light and I don't want to unplug it because other people in the house are using it.

It is a plain white standard looking micro-filter with "ADSL Filter" printed on it, with a serial number (2711026999) on the back. It came with the Cellpipe 7130 VDSL CPE supplied by Thales.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 13-Mar-12 22:19:48
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Does the "socket" fitted by the OR engineer have just a phone socket outlet, or a phone socket and a broadband socket?

Is there anything wrong with the speeds anyway?

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Standard User acpsd775
(experienced) Tue 13-Mar-12 22:35:13
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Does the "socket" fitted by the OR engineer have just a phone socket outlet, or a phone socket and a broadband socket?

Is there anything wrong with the speeds anyway?


the OP is with ask4 that run on the digital region in south Yorkshire, digital region connections don't usually use the split face plates like open reach FTTC uses they use a standard NTE5 socket and a normal filter like used with ADSL.

Ash

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Standard User vit0
(regular) Tue 13-Mar-12 22:35:42
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The socket is a standard NTE5a with no additional plates. Speeds are consistent, however they are meant to be 40/10 and as you can see from my speedtest in my sig' they are 36/8.

I can't see line stats or sync speed as I connect via PPPoE and have no access to the modem.

Standard User acpsd775
(experienced) Tue 13-Mar-12 22:39:40
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In reply to a post by vit0:
The socket is a standard NTE5a with no additional plates. Speeds are consistent, however they are meant to be 40/10 and as you can see from my speedtest in my sig' they are 36/8.

I can't see line stats or sync speed as I connect via PPPoE and have no access to the modem.


little off topic but how long did it take from you ordering to them actually getting it activated i placed an order with origin but it was going to take 2+months to get activated so canceled so how have ask4 been for you so far?

Ash

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Standard User vit0
(regular) Tue 13-Mar-12 22:51:32
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2 months?! insane.

It took about 14 working days. Digital Region / Thales manage all the provisioning so all the Digital Region ISPs should have the same lead times in theory.

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Edited by vit0 (Tue 13-Mar-12 22:54:12)

Standard User acpsd775
(experienced) Tue 13-Mar-12 22:54:58
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2 months?! insane.

It took about 14 working days. Digital Region / Thales manage all the provisioning so all the Digital Region ISPs should have the same lead times in theory.


Yup i thought this they claim to be having back logs but who knows origin also dont seam to know the difference between BT infinity and open reach wholesale access lol so that worried me so canceled my order, Ii just gave ask4 a quick call and hes confirm about 14 days answered a few questions for me and they look top notch just need £75 quid now for install and first month lol

Ash

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 13-Mar-12 22:55:04
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Hadn't looked at the sig speedtest - in general they are historic and irrelevant. Yours isn't tongue smile.

The upload is consistent with that seen on Openreach GEA 10Mbps sync and BT Wholesale 10,000kbps upstream IP Profile. I suggest there is some reason for that 2Mbps drop between sync and throughput which applies also to your setup. (My downstream thoughts following may also be relevant to the upstream).

Download speed:-

When you say it goes to the BT Cab and from there to the Thales cab, do you mean the BT Cab is an Openreach FTTC one, or the original PCP?

If it is an Openreach FTTC one then I expect the feed is you >> PCP >> FTTC DSLAM, (as normal), >> Thales cab.

If so, the Openreach DLM will be running on the DSLAM, with a maximum IP Profile of 38717kbps, before the handover to Thales. On the common BT Wholesale that generally gives 36-37.5Mbps throughput, depending on the standard of the ISP's backhaul, routers and so on.

So again, as with the upload, I wouldn't see an issue.

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