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Standard User 5km
(knowledge is power) Mon 31-Dec-12 14:31:25
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FTTC self install?


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Is there a self-install FTTC option yet. I.E no engineer visit required to the property (just the cabinet)?

I'm also wondering if I could put the VDSL modem in the communal utility cupboard where the BT line comes in because from there it is standard Ethernet. (could use PoE to get power to the modem). Don't need the phone line to work for calls, which it wouldn't set-up like that. Would BT have a problem with that???

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 31-Dec-12 14:47:23
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tongue
If you had looked in the Fibre forum you would have immediately seen this current thread.

Re putting the modem there, should be OK as the line goes there anyway. "PoE" for the power, what's that? If you mean Power Over Ethernet, I have my doubts.

If you already have extension phones they will continue to work.

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Standard User 5km
(knowledge is power) Mon 31-Dec-12 15:00:15
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My bad.

The phone line wouldn't work coz it would no longer be connected back to my flat, the Ethernet cable would be carrying power and Ethernet and therefore wouldn't be used to carry a phone signal as well. Although might be possible of only 100Mbps Ethernet and only one pair used for power and then the remaining pair used for the phone...

Would I gain anything by doing this and reducing the line length (to the modem) by about 10 meters?

Tempted to order FTTC on the lifts emergency line ... then I don't need to pay BT line rental ... Lol!

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Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Mon 31-Dec-12 15:07:20
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The lift emergency line is probably a special line that would not be allowed bb ordered on it - ah well, can't win them all.

The extra 10 metres if it is cat5 or better will probably make no appreciable difference. POE for the modem could probably be done but you would almost certainly need some electronics gubbins to do it as the modems won't do it by themselves - normally I have seen it the other way where phones have special injectors to power them using mains to POE conversion).

EDIT: Not sur ebut something like this

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Standard User 5km
(knowledge is power) Mon 31-Dec-12 15:13:55
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FYI you just use a PoE splitter for non-poe devices.

I'm probably close enough to the cabinet for it to not make a difference, predicted line speed is 78.5Mbps ... but it has not been installed yet.

That's a shame. Although with the modem in the utility cupboard I could share the connection and cost with another resident...

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 31-Dec-12 15:42:33
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In reply to a post by 5km:
Although with the modem in the utility cupboard I could share the connection and cost with another resident...
How so? Any more than you could with it elsewhere.

Am I right in thinking you already have the ethernet cable in place? For ADSLx?

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Standard User 5km
(knowledge is power) Mon 31-Dec-12 15:49:14
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Yes, each flat has Ethernet from the cupboard that currently has only one pair used for the phone line. I could just put in a managed switch to share the connection with others, better yet a Mikrotik router.

See this pic

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 31-Dec-12 17:18:09
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Looks like about 5km of wires there tongue smile.

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Standard User btbert
(member) Mon 31-Dec-12 17:32:23
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Well going by that pic i would say thats the main DP to your block of flats and then cat5 cable to each flat , as such you should not be touching it at all you bad boy ! LOL

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Mon 31-Dec-12 21:12:22
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Seconded Bert, that's the DP sho' 'nuff.

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