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Standard User pspr33
(experienced) Thu 31-Jan-13 19:39:58
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New(ish) to ADSL - questions.


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Hi all,

My first post here in quite a while.

I've recently moved house which meant moving from cable to ADSL. I haven't used an ADSL service since 2002 when I was on 512k ADSL with Nildram. I'm now with Vivaciti on their Broadband Unlimited service (http://www.vivaciti.net/product/1/home-internet/9/broadband-unlimited/6).

Here are the line stats:

Taken @ 19.22

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin 2.2db 6.8db
Line Attenuation 42.9db 25.5db
Data Rate 8641kbps 1049kbps
Max Rate 9840kbps 1049kbps

Exchange: STOKE ON TRENT (WMSTK)
BT Recorded Line Length to Exchange (m): 2254

I'm wondering if this is the maximum speed I'm going to be able to achieve on the line? I've disconnected all of the extensions which were causing quite a bit of interference. The Max Rate is usually over 10000kbps but with me grabbing those stats at peak time it seems the exchange is quite congested? The service can have interleaving turned on or off and it can have the SNR set as low as 3db.

Any thoughts would be most welcome smile
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 31-Jan-13 20:00:05
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Re: New(ish) to ADSL - questions.


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It's about right; perhaps you might get another 0.5 Meg. NM is bit on low side, but it's nighttime.

Sync speed isn't influenced by congestion; only throughput.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 31-Jan-13 23:54:42
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Re: New(ish) to ADSL - questions.


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/me passes you a " is" to stick in front of the final full stop. Even though so doing ain't gud grammer tongue.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.3/15.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 01-Feb-13 01:39:25
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Re: New(ish) to ADSL - questions.


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Well, if you must, I'd rather /you pass me "an" is tongue.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 01-Feb-13 09:16:54
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Re: New(ish) to ADSL - questions.


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Nope. I thought about "a" or "an", and "a" is correct. tongue. Try again, more carefully smile.

Anyway, as you haven't added my suggestion I assume "only by throughput" is what you meant tongue.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.3/15.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Fri 01-Feb-13 09:18:26)

Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Feb-13 09:22:56
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Is that because of the little gappy bit between the quote and the "is" in which case you are indeed correct...
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 01-Feb-13 09:24:33
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Yes.

Bearing in mind the insertion is to be before a full stop.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.3/15.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Fri 01-Feb-13 09:25:10)

Standard User pspr33
(experienced) Fri 01-Feb-13 09:30:40
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Thanks. I rebooted the router this morning and I'm now seeing these stats:

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin 6db 6.4db
Line Attenuation 43db 25.5db
Data Rate 8727kbps 1045kbps
Max Rate 10768kbps 1052kbps

Is my connection being profiled at all? I'm not sure if profiling is enabled on ADSL2+. I only ask because I've been rebooting, swapping routers, swapping filters, trying the test socket etc etc since the line became active last week.


Also, I didn't expect the thread to be threadjacked by the grammar police!
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Fri 01-Feb-13 09:52:55
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SNR Margin 6db 6.4db

seems it's doing what it can.

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MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 01-Feb-13 11:25:42
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In reply to a post by pspr33:
Also, I didn't expect the thread to be threadjacked by the grammar police!
Just having a bit of fun - about something that actually is ambiguous if you don't already know which of the two meanings was intended.

The data rate is a little lower than I would like to see, but nothing major wrong. The maximum I would expect would be around 9Mbps.

When you say you have disconnected the extension, do you mean detached the wires from the back of the faceplate? What is connected to the filter as well as the router? ARe you using a phone extension cable or just a dangly filter feeding the ADSL cable and the phone's own cable?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.3/15.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
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