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Standard User Bob_s2
(experienced) Fri 24-Jan-14 08:30:39
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TV Licence & Iplayer


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BBC want TV licence to be extended to watch TV on Iplayer
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 24-Jan-14 09:46:38
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So says Bob, care to link to where someone official says this....

We had a bob before who used to do this, so do the right thing and include links to stuff you are talking about.

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Standard User billford
(elder) Fri 24-Jan-14 10:05:22
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He's not entirely wide of the mark probably just a bit embarrassed about the source tongue

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 24-Jan-14 10:37:49
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In reply to a post by billford:
He's not entirely wide of the mark probably just a bit embarrassed about the source tongue

"However, the BBC has no access to data from internet providers that would enable it to identify the names and addresses of those who watch its programmes live online".

I can see them wanting to change that, too.

Oliver.
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(staff) Fri 24-Jan-14 10:39:22
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And guess where a good chunk of the money for the BDUK programme came from?

Digital Switchover fund and then the fee for 2015 to 2017, so they can actually say they are paying for broadband

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Standard User Galoka
(newbie) Fri 24-Jan-14 10:39:30
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Well, the mail are putting their normal anti BBC spin on it, but there is a debate to be had here. the FT was reporting on it the other day.

It's all in response to BBC submissions to the Culture Select committee , which is conducting an enquiry into the BBC's future.. and while right now it really isn't an issue, it won't be long be for it is
Standard User billford
(elder) Fri 24-Jan-14 11:16:09
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"However, the BBC has no access to data from internet providers that would enable it to identify the names and addresses of those who watch its programmes live online".

I can see them wanting to change that, too.
With the prevalence of dynamic IPs I don't see how that would help anyway unless they want to introduce retrospective billing, which has it's own problems.

The most obvious way would be that, in order to watch live programmes (for which you currently need a licence), you have to create an account and log in, and your details are checked against the licence records.

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Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Fri 24-Jan-14 11:16:45
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Lol they could do that and an IP address isn't conclusive evidence that the account holder has accessed content , & there wont be an increase in people buying a tv licence, And the licence is for live broadcast tv, not catch up on iplayer , no one is gonna pay to watch programes weeks after they where 1st broadcast, I certainly wouldn't, as others i'm sure will agree there isn't enough content worthwile watching on the bbc most of the time , and what little i do watch doesn't warrant the full licence fee ,no where near it

And with the smart tv's and the freeview boxes with hdd they have no chance, they can block online content to those with no licence all they want, anything that people want to watch will be made available via different sources anyway,

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 24-Jan-14 11:22:00
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With the prevalence of dynamic IPs I don't see how that would help anyway unless they want to introduce retrospective billing, which has it's own problems.

Dynamic IP addresses don't avoid "detection", e.g. p2p lawsuits can (and are) easily enough be issued to dynamic IP customers.

In reply to a post by billford:
The most obvious way would be that, in order to watch live programmes (for which you currently need a licence), you have to create an account and log in, and your details are checked against the licence records.

Or just require the user to input their TV licence number into the website when watching live iPlayer.

(edit: might not work if they are issued incrementally)

Oliver.

Edited by Oliver341 (Fri 24-Jan-14 11:23:05)

Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 24-Jan-14 11:31:33
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Or just require the user to input their TV licence number into the website when watching live iPlayer.

(edit: might not work if they are issued incrementally)

Well licence number and postcode, or whatever. But I think this whole argument is pretty pointless, they can't detect TV viewing in any case, despite what they may say, and it makes perfect sense to extend the licence requirement to Internet catch-up viewing; honest viewers will pay up, dishonest viewers won't, as at present.

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