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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:07:19
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Using VPNs to avoid censorship blocks


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Commonly used, from what I see on these forums.

What puzzles me though that these are by definition "Virtual". They are not private networks.

Wouldn't it be dead simple for the powers that be just to make it necessary to have a licence to run a VPN? (Costing money of course). ISPs having to record customer VPN licences and block any unlicensed use of one.

If it is, how long before it happens?

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:11:23
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It won't happen. The people would rise up, raise an army and march on London.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:13:37
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All 472 of them?

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:17:12
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I thought there were more people...


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:26:17
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Re: Using VPNs to avoid censorship blocks


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There are, but are there more than 472 that use VPN to avoid censorship?

Anyway - what about the concept? Simple; not easy; very complex; or impossible to implement?

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Standard User stuorguk
(member) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:32:44
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Licensing VPN would be like trying to licence BitTorrent. Wont happen.

Recent news on censorship and spying has just inspired a lot of programmers keen to fix the problem for good. The next few years are going to be interesting. This, coupled with the work that is going on with cryptocurrencies right now, is going to give governments a big headache. And there is nothing they can do about it, without destroying the internet (which wont happen).
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:48:39
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The reason you can't licence BitTorrent is because using a VPN is so easy. Licensing VPNs I see as being a piece of cake. Far easier than blocking child porn, which in relation to the vast majority seems to be pretty well established. And the serious people use VPNs.

The thing is everything initially goes through the ISPs routers. I get the impression the use of a VPN is obvious to the ISP. Is it? If it is, then it is easy to block.

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Standard User stuorguk
(member) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:53:12
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If you use standard ports and protocols, then yes you can block VPN, but it would be trivial to get around that, just as it is trivial to get around censorship. I dont really understand why you would want to license VPN? And what about TOR? You going to license that too?
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:56:35
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Yep. A lot of VPNs operate in countries which would tell the British Government what they can do with their licence.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 31-Jan-14 23:02:45
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Heh! I've no idea what TOR is. I just see all the ones who want to get round blocking either use proxies or VPN. And I don't want to license anything. Whatever the trivial methods are, they don't seem to be mainstream on these forums.

The crux of my OP was the final sentence. If it can be done, how long before it is done. Possibly easy and effective.

Why should the port or protocol used be a problem at the ISP's routers?

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