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Standard User VWGolfman
(knowledge is power) Sun 02-Feb-14 10:33:05
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Advice on my tracert please


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Hi,
Please may I ask advice on my broadband connection?

The following is a copy of my tracert to bbc.co.uk
Entanet do not have a LLU service at my exchange and yet they feature in my tracert.
Does this then suggest that I am on the old BTWholesale product?

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 3 ms home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
2 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms 109.224.191.50
3 186 ms 33 ms 35 ms 188-39-118-70.static.enta.net [188.39.118.70]
4 48 ms 36 ms 33 ms gi4-21.equinix.core.enta.net [188.39.118.69]
5 34 ms 34 ms * te5-3.telehouse-east2.core.enta.net [188.39.127.10]
6 36 ms 37 ms 35 ms te4-4.telehouse-east.core.enta.net [188.39.127.75]
7 35 ms 35 ms 49 ms bbc-linx.pr01.thdow.bbc.co.uk [195.66.224.103]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 63 ms 35 ms 39 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
10 96 ms 35 ms 36 ms 132.185.255.165
11 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.104]

Trace complete.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 02-Feb-14 12:03:20
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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It might be an idea to ask someone in the Entanet forum to do the same tracert (by IP address perhaps?) for comparison. (But a straight cross-post might annoy tbb tongue ).

It's also worth pointing out to others that the first hop after your router is ADSL24/Coms, so it could be the Entanet routers are the other side of Coms and may just be rented net access going nowhere near the Entanet WBC nodes. As I expect you know from other threads.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 02-Feb-14 12:04:05)

Standard User VWGolfman
(knowledge is power) Sun 02-Feb-14 13:17:26
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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Thank you RobertoS.

Does that tracert confirm though, that I am not on a TalkTalk network at any stage?


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 02-Feb-14 13:22:44
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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You could easily be using the TT DSLAM. Was it you with only Sky and TT LLU in your exchange? If so and you were on LLU, then that would be what you were on before.

You never know re TT network. Maybe that's what gets you to hop 2. Not all routers necessarily show up on a tracert.

So as well as an Enta user tracert, you need a TT user tracert.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User VWGolfman
(knowledge is power) Sun 02-Feb-14 14:09:38
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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No, I'm on Woking.
There are a few other LLU providers on this one.

...and unfortunately, although many cabinets have FTTC, my one doesn't frown

I'll ask some kind souls for tracert's from their providers to compare.
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sun 02-Feb-14 14:49:08
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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ripe.net shows hop2 assigned to Coms/ADSL24.


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 02-Feb-14 14:52:19
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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In reply to a post by VWGolfman:
Does this then suggest that I am on the old BTWholesale product?
No, but your router stats might.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 02-Feb-14 14:56:20
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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?
How?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 02-Feb-14 15:07:15
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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Eh? I thought from this thread that it is uncertain what service OP is on.

By G.DMT, 448K?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User uno
(knowledge is power) Sun 02-Feb-14 15:58:50
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Re: Advice on my tracert please


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It could suggest that you are on a LLU service with Coms but they use Enta for transit.

In fact,their AS confirms it.

http://bgp.he.net/AS51901

AS25061 Associated Networks Limited
AS8468 ENTANET International Limited
AS174 Cogent Communications

This is quite normal but just means that in addtion to AN and Cogent, they have Enta too.

Enta used to do 100Mb partial (peered routes only, generally) for £100 back in the day but looks like a full feed. We see it via Enta to Coms on two different full feeds our end.

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23
45
6
109.224.160.0/19   *[BGP/170] 2d 04:52:45, localpref 300
                      AS path: 25577 8468 51901 ?                    > to 84.45.48.5 via ge-1/0/6.0
                    [BGP/170] 1w3d 10:38:35, localpref 200                      AS path: 24931 8468 51901 ?
                    > to 46.236.33.61 via ge-1/0/5.0


Matt

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Edited by uno (Sun 02-Feb-14 17:06:17)

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