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Standard User Kamil
(newbie) Mon 28-Apr-14 18:49:38
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ADSL stats


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Can someone knowledgeable please have a look at my stats and tell me if they are OK or potentially risky.

Cheers

Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 8000
Max: Upstream rate = 936 Kbps, Downstream rate = 6208 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 891 Kbps, Downstream rate = 5235 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2
TPS-TC: ATM Mode
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 8.8 9.8
Attn(dB): 52.0 30.6
Pwr(dBm): 0.0 12.8
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 59 12
B: 163 27
M: 1 1
T: 1 4
R: 0 0
S: 0.9962 0.9955
L: 1317 225
D: 1 1
Counters
SF: 10714882 317304
SFErr: 2941 174
RS: 0 0
RSCorr: 0 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

HEC: 2269 119
OCD: 91 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 2141959227 364052202
Data Cells: 40737296 6538659
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 8657

ES: 2128 137
SES: 5 0
UAS: 77 77
AS: 173459

INP: 0.00 0.00
PER: 16.18 17.92
delay: 0.24 0.24
OR: 32.12 8.03

Bitswap: 21898 3914

Total time = 1 days 15 min 40 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 2942 0
ES: 2128 137
SES: 5 0
UAS: 77 77
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 40 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 1 0
ES: 1 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 31 0
ES: 22 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 15 min 40 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 32 0
ES: 23 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 1663 0
ES: 1118 94
SES: 4 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Since Link time = 2 days 10 min 57 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 2941 174
ES: 2127 129
SES: 5 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 28-Apr-14 18:57:11
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Re: ADSL stats


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You appear to be on ADSL2 rather than the expected ADSL2+. However, at that attenuation it won't make a lot of difference.

Both the up and down speeds are a bit low in my opinion, with the downstream SNR(M) being high. Indications of instability and varying levels of noise.

The oddity is that you are on Fast Path instead of Interleaved. Is this an LLU line?

Is there a history of trouble with the connection?

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User Kamil
(newbie) Mon 28-Apr-14 20:16:18
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Re: ADSL stats


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Yes it is ADSL2 as there is no ADSL2+ at my exchange. I was always on ADSLmax here with estimated speed of 4384kbps from kitz attenuation calculator.

I have changed providers recently and I believe they use talk talks infrastructure but as far as I know my exchange is not LLU enabled?? This is puzzling for me. My exchange is Runfold THRD.

I am on fast path per my request as I need good pings. I get 9ms to bbc.co.uk in comparison with my old providers fast path where I got 25ms at best of times. It is probably reason for my SNR target set at 9dB? I think anything lower and it would just be unusable.

What sort of speeds would you expect to see on my kind of attenuation?

As far as I know there is no history of trouble. Been living here past 5 months and not had any major issues.

Thanks for your input.


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 28-Apr-14 21:08:04
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Re: ADSL stats


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It is puzzling for me too!
In reply to a post by Kamil:
Yes it is ADSL2 as there is no ADSL2+ at my exchange.
You can only get ADSL2 from ADSL2+, never from ADSL Max. Yet your exchange only has ADSL max and no ADSL2+ LLUs.
In reply to a post by Kamil:
What sort of speeds would you expect to see on my kind of attenuation?
4.3 Meg on ADSL Max, but you are well exceeding that.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User Kamil
(newbie) Mon 28-Apr-14 21:20:08
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Re: ADSL stats


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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
You can only get ADSL2 from ADSL2+, never from ADSL Max.


Thanks for that I have not realized this.
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 28-Apr-14 21:57:51
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Re: ADSL stats


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Using MrSaffron's checker gives this indication what you could get with the connection (using your router stats)

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/index.php?param=RG...

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 28-Apr-14 22:50:42
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Samknows must be out of date. The OP seems to think it's TTB. Or it could be one of the recent WBC upgrades.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 28-Apr-14 22:55:06
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Yes, it must be that otherwise it don't make sense. OP must be on recently activated TTB LLU ADSL2+ but running on degraded ADSL2 Mode, determined by the DLM..

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Mon 28-Apr-14 22:56:14)

Standard User Kamil
(newbie) Mon 28-Apr-14 23:29:56
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Re: ADSL stats


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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Yes, it must be that otherwise it don't make sense. OP must be on recently activated TTB LLU ADSL2+ but running on degraded ADSL2 Mode, determined by the DLM..


I dont know exactly but pretty sure that there is no ADSL2 or WBC21 enabled and there are no plans to do it on this exchange. I can not order any ADSL2+ products here.

On the other hand FTTC has been rolled out ish over here and I am able to order if I wanted to trough several providers.

I am on TT wholesale with my provider (so I am told) but when I go on TT website all they can offer me ADSL wise is simply broadband with max 3,8mbps estimated speed.

I dont know. Is it possible to be connected to a different exchange? This area has two exchanges overlapping with coverage. How plausible would this be that I am actually connected to different on? (similar distance away but ADSL2 enabled)

Also I am not on DLM at all. My provider is able to set SNR target manually and it takes instant to apply as well. They set me 9dB target with interleaving off per my request.

All I am not sure about is the error rate whether it will make the trough put suffer in the long run (ES)?

Thanks for replies.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 28-Apr-14 23:41:56
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You are on an ADSL2+ connection. Fact. For whatever reason, the system has set it down to ADSL2.

If you put your phone number into this checker, does it work or does it tell you the number is not recognised?

If it tells you the number is not recognised, then use the Address option instead. Do not use the Postcode only option.

The phone number or address option will tell you the exchange and lots of other stuff. Please just copy and paste what it says, but delete the phone number or address before posting. We want to see the exchange, cabinet number and the table data below those.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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