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Standard User andyfoo
(newbie) Fri 16-May-14 14:18:14
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50 - 100 mbit leased line options


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Hi all,

Really not sure whether to put this under Which ISP residential or business forums, so thought I'd ask a general question here to gauge whether my requirements are actually feasible!

I live in an FTTC enabled area, but the line length means I'm getting 40mbit down, 6mbit up at best. I'm not in a Virgin Media zone and they have no plans to expand to my area (source: response to their 'cable-my-street' enquiry mailbox).

So, I'm wondering what other options I have for getting a solid, reliable connection between 50-100mbit (I suppose the speed comes down to cost mostly) on both download AND upload, to my home.

Why? Well, I'm lucky enough to be able to work from home a decent amount, but for this to be practical in the long term I really need a fast, stable connection - neither of which are satisfied by Sky or Plusnet FTTC at this time.

Do I have any options? Can the likes of Spitfire, for example, provide an ethernet connection to a home? Would any of this even be feasibly priced for a technically non-business use? I have a preconception that a 100mbit leased line is probably not going to sit in the £500 - £1000/month bracket !
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Fri 16-May-14 14:25:06
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Re: 50 - 100 mbit leased line options


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Various business leased line companies exist. BT, TalkTalk, Virgin and others. You need to speak to the business arms of their operations. It's going to depend on how far you are from the local POP for the company and also install costs could be high depending on what infrastructure is already there (this has no relation to FTTC).

Companies do this every day and if you are willing to pay then they can almost certainly deliver.

For 100Mb with onward Internet connectivity I am guessing you might be looking at between £5K and £10K per annum. Install costs could be significant. We had a quote for 100Mb link (without Internet, this is internal business line) for £3K install and £2.3K annual rental. That was from a company who are a business specialist and is much cheaper than we would have had using BT leased lines.
Standard User andyfoo
(newbie) Fri 16-May-14 14:50:21
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Ian,

Thanks for your comments. I'll make a start on gathering up some contact details and working out an exact budget of what I can / can't afford, and start making some quote calls I guess!

Would just house number + postcode be sufficient for quotation purposes? I imagine a site visit by engineer would be required to properly assess install costs, but annual rental / bandwidth costs should be straight forward enough I guess?


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Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Fri 16-May-14 15:12:13
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I would think address would be enough. Could need a site visit but I think they generally do costings on paper (ie maps) rather than physical visits.

Do a google for "leased line internet" and you should get lots of results.
Standard User carrobesit
(newbie) Sat 17-May-14 12:37:08
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Long and short, if you are close to the POP (the endpoint for a leased line - not necessarily your local exchange), you are looking at probably around £300-400/month, but don't be surprised if it is a lot more than this. I've had customers in one town varying from around £400 for 10 on 100 to over £700 for the same speed, and they have a local POP.

You will also find that the standard install may be covered FOC if you sign for a 36 month contract, but if there are any excess construction requirements (cabling, ducting, etc), these can rapidly add costs. Another example (although the higher end) - a customer required 2.4km of cabling & ducting to bring a leased line to their premises. The end quote was for £98,000 ex VAT.

Have you looked at/considered EFM as another alternative? It will only do a max of 20Mbit each way if you take 4-pair, but it's generally more cost effective than a Leased Line.

RobC.
Standard User blueacid
(committed) Sat 17-May-14 14:57:36
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Depending on your usage, perhaps AAISP can bond two or more FTTC lines to aggregate the speed.. Not so good if you need 50mbit up but it might be good?
Standard User TheBaron
(knowledge is power) Sat 17-May-14 15:06:39
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any help ?

http://www.gigaclear.com/home-use/

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sun 18-May-14 07:49:30
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Since you are connected to a fibre enabled cabinet, are you in an area where you might get FTTPoD ?

Standard User zom22
(regular) Sun 18-May-14 08:34:30
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Gigaclear would only be interested if they are already in your area doing a rural BB project.
They install their own network totally separate from BT's
.....and they are not interested in places which already have access to a SFBB type service via BT FTTC cabinets or Virgin anyway.
See their criterion http://www.gigaclear.com/can-i-get-it/
Standard User TheBaron
(knowledge is power) Sun 18-May-14 12:35:45
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Yeah I read that afterward, shame, I'd pay their prices for 100/100 or 200/200 , could stretch to 1000/1000 but only for bragging rights smile

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