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Standard User Binary_Digit
(newbie) Tue 10-Jun-14 07:50:34
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Tram Wifi.. How could it be supplied?


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I've noticed that our new Trams here in Edinburgh have a much difference free wifi service to what the busses have. Firstly it's not provided by 3G/4G like the busses (Vodafone)
But by an ISP called Custodian, which I've never heard of.
There is no separate cables or antennas on the electric poles/lines, nothing at track side like masts or antennas.

So just how are they providing a service to them which has a latency of 6-7 ms with speeds up to 20 both ways over wifi. Any ideas?

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Standard User rob54
(committed) Sun 15-Jun-14 00:37:36
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In reply to a post by Binary_Digit:
I've noticed that our new Trams here in Edinburgh have a much difference free wifi service to what the busses have. Firstly it's not provided by 3G/4G like the busses (Vodafone)
But by an ISP called Custodian, which I've never heard of.
There is no separate cables or antennas on the electric poles/lines, nothing at track side like masts or antennas.

So just how are they providing a service to them which has a latency of 6-7 ms with speeds up to 20 both ways over wifi. Any ideas?

http://www.speedtest.net/iphone/870758299.png

That's rather good your public transport has wifi at all. In London it is just being introduced to some underground lines. Not buses. We have had a tram system that runs south west to south east of London from about 2000. No wifi there either.

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Standard User eckiedoo
(committed) Sun 15-Jun-14 08:07:33
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I think the first operator to incorporate WiFi in this area, was Stagecoach Fife in its routes to Edinburgh, Glasgow etc; and that was about 2008.

I tried it out in March 2010, as an experiment, on an Edinburgh-bound service.

I have similarly tried it on its longer-distance service to Aviemore, the bus carrying on to Inverness, about 2011.

So public road transport WiFi in the east of Scotland is generally widely available.

Rail is not so well covered.

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sun 15-Jun-14 10:27:02
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http://mobileonboard.com/beam-bus-wi-fi/


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Standard User eckiedoo
(committed) Sun 15-Jun-14 10:35:15
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Thanks, I had noted that.

I haven't delved into it - particularly looking for how it links to the great, outside world.

At present, must presume like the Stagecoach installations, uses Mobile Phone connections.

Plenty of such masts etc from Fife to Edinburgh; but rather sparse north of Perth.
Standard User 5km
(knowledge is power) Sun 15-Jun-14 10:48:40
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Icomera is providing this solution.

http://www.icomera.com/edinburgh-buses-and-trams-are...

X6's on the trams and M340's on the buses. Both solutions can bond/balance multiple mobile networks.

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Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Sun 15-Jun-14 10:53:28
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We have WiFi on our local bus service and mobile phone ticketing now...

http://www.signaturebus.com/

http://www.signaturebus.com/#/news/4546764555

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Standard User eckiedoo
(committed) Sun 15-Jun-14 11:55:41
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Thanks for that link.

It leads on to-

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Standard User Binary_Digit
(newbie) Tue 08-Jul-14 15:43:40
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If this is an LTE system i'd be surprised unless it's their own network, Certainly not any of the 4 mobile networks.. The latency on the system is incredible for being in Edinburgh.
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