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Standard User plc143
(learned) Fri 04-Jul-14 14:01:13
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right?


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or wrong?
my exchange which is CLNEW is classed by ofcom as Market3-
Four or more 'principal' operators provide broadband services at this exchange.
Service in this area has been deregulated!
so if you look at the providers there are-
AOL=TTB
BT=working but NO adsl2
O2/Be=Gone
C&W=Gone
Pipex=Gone
Sky=working
talktalk=working
Tiscali=gone
so when i was with BE used to get 10meg rock solid for years.
Now the best i can get from ALL providers is 5meg?
what is going on here then?
can i report this to Ofcom as NOT being Market 3?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 04-Jul-14 14:08:09
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No point on reporting since they are changing from Market 1,2,3 to Markets A and B

On your speeds they are irrelevant to the market definition, and without seeing the line stats it is probably down to the nice matching of hardware to the DSLAM and Be tweaking every speed parameter possible on their kit years ago.

NOTE: If the 5 Meg is the pre-sales estimate then this is due to pressure to only advertise what might be possible, so providers will tend to mention a lower figure now than five or six years ago.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 04-Jul-14 14:18:07
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?
BT Wholesale ADSL2+ is showing on Samknows for that exchange.

Also Sky and TalkTalk are both there.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Fri 04-Jul-14 14:19:34)


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Standard User plc143
(learned) Fri 04-Jul-14 14:21:32
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thank you for the clarification Mr Saffron,you are a font of knowledge.
Standard User plc143
(learned) Fri 04-Jul-14 14:24:04
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that is strange RobertoS as when i called them to see about moving over to them
they too said that i could only get 5mbps but like MrSaffron said may be a
conservative estimate?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 04-Jul-14 14:42:24
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Probably going off the dodgy figures from this checker.

Can you copy and paste the table please? And the cabinet number from the line above it.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 04-Jul-14 15:52:58
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I get estimated 4 Mbps and I used to get 13Mbps on the line with that ISP. Estimates can be wildly out but usually quite conservative. No ISP wants to tell you that you're going to get 20Mbps and only deliver 12... So it works in their favour to be a tad conservative smile

Edited by ukhardy07 (Fri 04-Jul-14 15:53:46)

Standard User plc143
(learned) Fri 04-Jul-14 22:19:39
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cant see a cabinet number but this is the info i got-
BT BROADBAND AVAILABILITY CHECKER
Telephone Number *********** on Exchange NEW CROSS
Featured Products

Downstream Line Rate(Mbps)

Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)

Downstream Range(Mbps)

Availability Date

WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 5 -- 4 to 6 Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M Up to 5 Up to 1 4 to 6 Available
ADSL Max Up to 5 -- 3.5 to 7.5 Available
WBC Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Other Offerings
Copper Multicast -- -- -- Available
For all ADSL and WBC Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) services, the stable line rate will be determined

during the first 10 days of service usage.

Throughput/download speeds will be less than line rates and can be affected by a number of factors

within and external to BT's network, Communication Providers' networks and within customer

premises.

The Stop Sale date for Datastream is from 30-Jun-2012; the Formal Retirement date for Datastream

is from 30-Jun-2014. The Stop Sale date for IPstream is from 30-Nov-2012; the Formal Retirement

date for IPstream is from 30-Jun-2014.

If the End User wishes to migrate from their current Broadband supplier they will need to contact

them in the first instance to obtain a MAC (Migrations Authorisation) Code, and then contact their

new Broadband supplier to arrange for the service to be migrated.

Note: Please note that postcode and address check results are indicative only. Most accurate

results can be obtained from a telephone number check.
Thank you for your interest.

thanx for your time RobertoS
Standard User plc143
(learned) Fri 04-Jul-14 22:21:13
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thanx for that ukhardy07 but the big question is by how much??
Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 04-Jul-14 22:32:54
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Like I said I was estimated 4Mbps on one of my lines but got 13Mbps

If you have had 10 before there's no reason that will change. Ignore the estimates smile. This is assuming it's the same line? Who's your Internet with right now and what's the speeds?

EDIT: Can you provide us line stats of your current line that's the best way forward. If you don't know how to get this we can advise you... Let us know your ISP and the router you are using smile

Edited by ukhardy07 (Fri 04-Jul-14 23:24:01)

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