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Standard User trumpet272
(learned) Sat 21-Feb-15 11:04:08
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USAGE


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Hi all, I am experimenting with various limited BB options. There seems to be one single thing that always comes to light, and that's the amount of data I use at home, without downloading ANY thing, other than web pages. I send and receive email with few or no attachments.

I have an a few iPhones and a couple of iPads in the house - all but 2 have their WIFI off permanently, and all are set to NOT auto update anything.

I have used 1.1GB of data in 18 hours, 8 of those everyone was asleep. I just do not understand what is happening. It means I am completely ruling myself out of using mobile internet - the only real option I have!

Internet Usage
Total traffic: 1.10 GB
Uplink traffic: 85.09 MB
Downlink traffic: 1.02 GB
Uplink rate: 19 kbit/s
Downlink rate: 19 kbit/s
Online time: 0 d 18 h 28 min 11 s
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 21-Feb-15 11:11:17
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Remember apps on phones run in background with things like Push notifications that require polling too, which can add up over time too.

Web browsing is also using more data as sites use larger and better images etc so can imagine 1GB being used by a full day of decent web browsing.

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Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Sat 21-Feb-15 11:45:30
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I don't know what type of connection you are using, but if it is 19kbit/s as indicated, then the max transfer in 18hours would be about 150MBytes (each way so total 300MB)

were that stats reading zero when you started the test?


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Standard User trumpet272
(learned) Sat 21-Feb-15 12:03:23
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I bought a £10 PAYG Sim card from THREE to try in a router, which is still working.

Yes I reset it when I put the SIM card in yesterday...

Total traffic: 1.14 GB
Uplink traffic: 89.76 MB
Downlink traffic: 1.05 GB
Uplink rate: 20 kbit/s
Downlink rate: 25 kbit/s
Online time: 0 d 19 h 25 min 40 s
Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Feb-15 12:38:37
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That seems like quite a lot of usage for basically email etc.!?
If no video streaming is done I can surf the web all day and only use a few 100MB - while a film or video soon munches through a few GBs!

Perhaps restrict the allowed devices using MAC addressing (or by turning them off) and introduce devices while monitoring things in case one of them is doing something strange.

The IOS devices can move a lot of data around updating photos/photostream etc. so might be worth looking at. Facebook auto-playing video can also use more bandwidth.

Also, are you happy that your wifi is secure in case a neighbour has jumped on?

Standard User trumpet272
(learned) Sat 21-Feb-15 13:26:52
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Thanks all those things you mentioned are 'off'. Kids iPods, spare iPads etc, WIFI off. No neighbours so there's no pilfering data either. Everything is Mac. Today there's been my macbook and iPhone in use, just web and a few emails

I do have Control 4 that operates a lot of things, but I was ensured that this literally uses kbts of data a day. I'll do what you suggest and switch everything off and see if I can see anything untoward. Thanks!


Total traffic: 1.19 GB
Uplink traffic: 94.29 MB
Downlink traffic: 1.10 GB
Uplink rate: 2 kbit/s
Downlink rate: 4 kbit/s
Online time: 0 d 20 h 51 min 44 s
Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 22-Feb-15 09:22:19
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In reply to a post by trumpet272:
I bought a £10 PAYG Sim card from THREE to try in a router, which is still working.

Yes I reset it when I put the SIM card in yesterday...

Total traffic: 1.14 GB
Uplink traffic: 89.76 MB
Downlink traffic: 1.05 GB
Uplink rate: 20 kbit/s
Downlink rate: 25 kbit/s
Online time: 0 d 19 h 25 min 40 s
Something doesn't add up there (or doesn't multiply/divide anyway). At 25kbit/s the maximum you can download is 11.3MB an hour. Over a 24 hour period the most you can download is 271MB.

If that connection has been steady at 25kbit/s for 19 hours it can only have pulled down 241MB of data.

25kbit/s = 25,000 bits per second / 8 = 3125 bytes per second
3125*3600 = 11.25MB per hour.
11.25*24 = 271MB.

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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK

Edited by Andrue (Sun 22-Feb-15 09:24:14)

Standard User trumpet272
(learned) Sun 22-Feb-15 11:49:48
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Installed a Tmobile 3G SIM (With 500mb Data on it?!) and reset at 1.30pm yesterday... One App Store download of 60mb. All other devices have WI-FI off.

The downlink rate fluctuates.


Total traffic: 3.55 GB
Uplink traffic: 180.41 MB
Downlink traffic: 3.37 GB
Uplink rate: 50 kbit/s
Downlink rate: 1.30 Mbit/s
Online time: 0 d 17 h 43 min 41 s

Stumped!!
Standard User trumpet272
(learned) Sun 22-Feb-15 11:52:00
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Here are the list of Devices - is there any way of finding out which are using data?
Many thanks

1 MacBook-Air B8:E8:56:15:0B:CE 192.168.1.2 0 days 21 hours 47 minutes 49 seconds Active Ethernet Kick Out
2 SonosZP 00:0E:58:11:F2:D8 192.168.1.4 0 days 19 hours 7 minutes 59 seconds Active Ethernet Kick Out
3 BobsMagiciPhone A4:5E:60:10:B1:AF 192.168.1.6 0 days 23 hours 46 minutes 38 seconds Active Ethernet Kick Out
4 SonosZP 00:0E:58:11:86:72 192.168.1.10 0 days 19 hours 11 minutes 43 seconds Active Ethernet Kick Out
5 c7-touchpanel-000FFF138FCA 00:0F:FF:13:8F:CA 192.168.1.196 0 days 20 hours 7 minutes 39 seconds Active Ethernet Kick Out
6 home-controller-300-000FFF146F72 00:0F:FF:14:6F:72 192.168.1.23 0 days 15 hours 23 minutes 42 seconds Active Ethernet Kick Out
7 home-controller-200-000FFF13BD83 00:0F:FF:13:BD:83 192.168.1.197 0 days 15 hours 59 minutes 55 seconds Active Ethernet Kick Out
8 Unknown 00:0F:FC:10:96:2E 192.168.1.111 N/A Active Ethernet Kick Out
9 Unknown 00:06:78:08:53:09 192.168.1.232 N/A Active Ethernet Kick Out
10 HenrysiPodtouch C8:B5:B7:83:54:8A N/A N/A Blocked Ethernet Unblock
11 bravia10b2b96f5116aea6 54:42:49:80:DB:A7 192.168.1.3 0 days 17 hours 46 minutes 23 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
12 SonosZP 00:0E:58:11:53:2C 192.168.1.5 0 days 19 hours 8 minutes 2 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
13 SonosZP 00:0E:58:20:9E:4A 192.168.1.11 0 days 19 hours 11 minutes 40 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
14 wapdfddc4 4C:00:82:DF:DD:C4 192.168.1.12 0 days 19 hours 13 minutes 43 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
15 Unknown D0:66:7B:0E:3C:75 192.168.1.13 0 days 12 hours 40 minutes 35 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
16 wapdfddf0 4C:00:82:DF:DD:F0 192.168.1.14 0 days 20 hours 12 minutes 0 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
17 Shazzas-iPhone E0:C9:7A:7B:91:72 192.168.1.15 16487 days 5 hours 21 minutes 54 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
18 Office 98:FC:11:A8:E6:65 192.168.1.16 0 days 21 hours 47 minutes 13 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
19 SEC0015998637DC 00:15:99:86:37:DC 192.168.1.17 0 days 22 hours 29 minutes 44 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
20 home-controller-200-000FFF13BDB8 00:0F:FF:13:BD:B8 192.168.1.109 0 days 23 hours 16 minutes 17 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
21 NAS 00:16:01:41:1A:2C 192.168.1.27 0 days 12 hours 42 minutes 45 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
22 LS410D65C 10:6F:3F:CB:06:5C 192.168.1.18 0 days 12 hours 46 minutes 13 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
23 home-controller-200-000FFF13A196 00:0F:FF:13:A1:96 192.168.1.9 0 days 14 hours 58 minutes 17 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
24 Unknown 00:19:FB:8D:11:DB 192.168.1.7 0 days 15 hours 14 minutes 9 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
25 home-controller-200-000FFF13A17A 00:0F:FF:13:A1:7A 192.168.1.8 0 days 16 hours 29 minutes 56 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
26 Kitchen 98:FC:11:A8:E6:6A 192.168.1.19 0 days 17 hours 2 minutes 27 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
27 Loft 98:FC:11:A8:E6:6E 192.168.1.21 0 days 17 hours 3 minutes 21 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
28 DiningRoom 98:FC:11:A8:E6:5F 192.168.1.22 0 days 17 hours 3 minutes 21 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
29 iPod-touch C8:B5:B7:7D:69:0D 192.168.1.24 0 days 20 hours 48 minutes 21 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
30 SonosCR 00:0E:58:00:51:90 192.168.1.25 0 days 21 hours 29 minutes 28 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
31 The-Jebbs-iMac 04:54:53:0D:AE:46 192.168.1.26 0 days 21 hours 42 minutes 23 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
32 BobsiPadMiniII 80:BE:05:DE:40:53 192.168.1.28 0 days 23 hours 29 minutes 45 seconds Inactive Ethernet Kick Out
Standard User bookey
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-Feb-15 12:08:39
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The downlink and uplink rates are current not a sync rate!
On a good 3G connection you can peak upto 20Mbits downlink and 5Mbits uplink.

Paul
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