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Standard User wingco1
(legend) Fri 17-Jun-16 15:04:42
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What's happening


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1st May 2016 BQM goes from http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/7f5184dcfa2... low latency which it has been for a long long time.

to http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ebf02c35c87... no idea what the spikes are.

then on 17th June to http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/e7eb509ccfe... spikes disappear latency +10

I use a Billion 8800NL fibre router/modem, which is working fine. Nothing changed on the phone line. I've tried to jump gateways a couple of times to get lower latency but nothing changes.

For some reason I can't copy/paste the line stats.

Edited by wingco1 (Fri 17-Jun-16 16:31:08)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 17-Jun-16 16:10:13
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All three are coming back as:

Page Not Found

The page you were looking for was not found. Please double check the address you entered. Alternatively, select an option from the menu to continue.



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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 17-Jun-16 16:15:10
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As MHC says.

I see your live BQM is working. I think you need to pick up the equivalent link just below the graph on the history page.

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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59500/14989kbps @ 600m. - BQM


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Standard User wingco1
(legend) Fri 17-Jun-16 16:32:11
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Thanks I've replaced the original links. Hopefully these should now be fine.

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 17-Jun-16 17:32:46
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Yes, those work fine. Any chance you could find the day the base latency changes please?

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59500/14989kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User wingco1
(legend) Fri 17-Jun-16 17:40:14
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/f74bf990e74...

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 17-Jun-16 17:58:51
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I suspect your base latency has actually risen by 8ms, which is the standard first step by DLM when turning on interleaving. Have you also lost quite a bit of connection speed?

The spikes in my case were always to do with the routing through Plusnet's systems. Not just the gateway but also the route to it from entering PN's backhaul. You may find a red marker on your BQM at the point they disappeared.

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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59500/14989kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User wingco1
(legend) Fri 17-Jun-16 22:40:12
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Line Stats, is this any help?

Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 6.3 6.1
Attenuation (dB) 18.7 0.0
Output Power (dBm) 12.7 6.8
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 75462 20245
Rate (Kbps) 63053 19998
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 51 237
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword) 1 1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame) 64 3
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword) 12 16
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans) 0.0262 0.3788
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol) 19512 5385
D (interleaver depth) 1235 1
I (interleaver block size in bytes) 64 255
N (RS codeword size) 64 255
Delay (msec) 8 0
INP (DMT symbol) 3.00 0.00
OH Frames 99465167 26519151

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 17-Jun-16 23:30:06
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D line - interleave depth. 1 = Fast path

Delay line - what has been added to latency by DLM.

Your upstream sync is at maximum so there shouldn't be a problem with that.

The I and N lines define the dimensions of the matrix being used by the interleaving. WWWombat is the expert on how all those parameters work together.

Note how high the downstream Attainable Rate is compared to the Rate. That is normal when interleaving is on. If interleaving gets turned off then Attainable will fall and Rate will rise. Delay reset to zero.

I asked earlier if you know what the cabinet is. That's so we know whether G.INP is available on your line. If it is, it is possible that in a while it will step in, normalise the rate, set interleaving depth to 8 or 16 in most circumstances, and zeroise the Delay. That's assuming your Billion is G.INP capable. I think it is but others will know for sure, yea or nay.

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Standard User wingco1
(legend) Sat 18-Jun-16 00:01:43
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Thanks for the info Bob. It's an ECI cabinet. Confirmed by a friendly BB engineer smile

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