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Standard User Bob_s2
(experienced) Wed 07-Dec-16 07:46:21
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The regulator wants to un-block this log-jam by implementing a new rule that would require Openreach to upgrade its telegraph pole drop wires with fibre cables at the request of any telecoms provider who is offering full-fibre broadband to a customer. Openreach would then charge the provider for using the drop wire.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4007216/Open...
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 07-Dec-16 07:58:18
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Standard User AdrianPH
(member) Wed 07-Dec-16 08:55:20
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It is a consultation , nobody has been ordered to do anything yet.

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So Ofcom is consulting on whether to require Openreach to upgrade its drop wires with fibre at the request of any telecoms provider who is offering full-fibre broadband to a customer. Openreach could then charge the provider for using the drop wire.


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Standard User Bob_s2
(experienced) Wed 07-Dec-16 08:57:37
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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 07-Dec-16 08:57:58
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Sorry, just spotted the quote so had just deleted my comment...
Standard User Bob_s2
(experienced) Wed 07-Dec-16 09:17:28
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It appears to have worked well in Spain

Quote "Other countries have seen duct and pole access used to extend fibre to people’s doorsteps. In Spain and Portugal, the resulting competition has helped deliver full-fibre broadband coverage of 79% and 70% respectively. This compares to around 2% currently in the UK."
Standard User Fastman2
(experienced) Wed 07-Dec-16 09:21:35
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issue is they want to do this and get it for free -- or eveing they get paid for it
its been available for 4 years !!!! -- but very few taken advantage of it
virgin only use their own network and don't allow any one else to use theirs
spain its primarlly telefonica think you have hardlly any choice in spain
Standard User Bob_s2
(experienced) Wed 07-Dec-16 09:27:09
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I dont trhink you have understood the OFCOM proposal
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 07-Dec-16 09:29:53
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If Openreach are forced to install fibre to the premises then how is it paid for? It will either make rental very high to cover the costs or is it expected that Openreach should do it out of their own funds?
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(staff) Wed 07-Dec-16 09:36:02
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The bit about the drop wire is being mis-used I believe...

The full consultation talks about problems with some drop wire from poles, i.e. adding another providers fibre drop would require a new pole and thus be expensive, so as part of the consultation it is looking at an option so Openreach will replace existing drop and the consultation does mention the copper/fibre combo drop wires that exist, i.e. small fibre tube and copper pair in one cable.

Of course for this to happen, the people asking for the drop wire swap would also have to be offering fibre across the rest of the network too. So its not about TalkTalk being able to put in a request for a fibre drop and thus forcing Openreach to install fibre all the way - the all the way part would be achieved via the PIA pole/duct sharing.

The Daily Mail article is so littered with mistakes and confusion that I'd expect Ofcom to be phoning them up for a correction or too.

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