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Standard User Bob_s2
(experienced) Fri 21-Apr-17 17:12:21
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VM Launches New Ultra fast Broadband


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Virgin Media has announced an incredibly fast new broadband tier for small- and medium-sized enterprises.

Voom Fibre, which will be available from 2 May, promises download speeds of up to 350Mbps as standard.

Virgin Media says thatís four times faster than anything offered by its rivals.

usiness customers will be able to choose between three different packages, which start at £30 per month. These are:

£30 per month for 7Mbps upload
£40 per month for 15 Mbps upload
£55 per month for 20 Mbps upload
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 21-Apr-17 17:47:08
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Probably worth giving the link so people people can look at the footnotes since

"Virgin Media says thatís four times faster than anything offered by its rivals."

is not factually correct, unless there some clauses defining who they think their rivals are, and are discounting services like GEA-FTTP

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 21-Apr-17 17:59:19
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Probably worth giving the link so people people can look at the footnotes since

"Virgin Media says thatís four times faster than anything offered by its rivals."

is not factually correct,
unless there some clauses defining who they think their rivals are, and are discounting services like GEA-FTTP



Totally agree, and they cannot deny BT being a rival and with BTs 330Mbps service available "on-demand" Virgin are trying to redefine maths!

Time for a complaint to the ASA as soon as an advert appears.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 21-Apr-17 18:05:51
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I'd forego the Fibre on Demand, since its not a genuine competitor, but given the increasing availability of native FTTP using 'anything' is a step too far.

Maybe poster missed a * that led to a footnote mentioning 'widely available' which is how they get past the issue of Gigabit from Hyperoptic and even the business Gigabit GEA-FTTP options.

I do have some concerns about buying a 350 Mbps service with a 7 Mbps upload rate, since if downloading via TCP, the ACK's for 300 Mbps+ are going to be substantial. If their service has TCP QoS applied as an option, like some routers allow you to do then less of an issue.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 21-Apr-17 18:09:23
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FTTP On Demand is very widely available - take up due to costs may be low but that does not change the availability.


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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 21-Apr-17 21:13:29
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In reply to a post by MHC:
Totally agree, and they cannot deny BT being a rival and with BTs 330Mbps service available "on-demand" Virgin are trying to redefine maths!

Time for a complaint to the ASA as soon as an advert appears.


FoD is basically a leased line, and the ASA already consist neither it or GEA-FTTP to be considered for 'widely available' comparisons so they have an easy get out.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 21-Apr-17 21:15:22
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
I do have some concerns about buying a 350 Mbps service with a 7 Mbps upload rate, since if downloading via TCP, the ACK's for 300 Mbps+ are going to be substantial. If their service has TCP QoS applied as an option, like some routers allow you to do then less of an issue.


DOCSIS takes care of this with the help of some extensions.
Standard User JohnR
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 22-Apr-17 07:21:08
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Probably worth giving the link so people people can look at the footnotes since


Seeing as how the OP has not....

Linky Note that there is no mention of faster than anyone else....

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Apr-17 08:24:11
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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
FoD is basically a leased line


Last time I checked a leased line comes with a SLA (which a FoD service does not), its pricing does not drop to £49.99 pm after 3 years with a £500 pre-paid mastercard thrown in (which it does on Fod) and a 300 mbps leased line costs £1079 pm in my area whilst a 330mbps FoD service costs 'only' £300 pm. Perhaps maths wasn't your strongest subject at school?

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 22-Apr-17 09:06:27
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Hence why a link is important to separate PR fluff from actual product advertising

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