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Standard User John_Gray
(member) Tue 27-Jun-17 17:25:47
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Amusing results from Whick? broadband test


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https://broadbandtest.which.co.uk/

On my Virgin 70 Mbps / 5 Mbps line (Windows 10):
Which? gives...
Response time (latency) 112 ms
Download speed 155.1 Mbps (wildly varying throughout the test)
Upload speed 75.4 Mbps (wildly varying throughout the test)

SamKnows router results show:
Latency 15.1 ms
Download 76.8 Mbps
Upload 5.0 Mbps

The Which? results seem to go back to the dark days of buffering within software firewalls!
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 27-Jun-17 18:27:43
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Re: Amusing results from Whick? broadband test


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This was discussed in detail a few months back - the same type of bad results were being seen then, 120Mbps of a BT VDSL service for example.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 27-Jun-17 19:41:43
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Re: Amusing results from Whick? broadband test


[re: John_Gray] [link to this post]
 
Believe this is a recent test from you
http://tbb.st/1498581256368787355

Not all speed testers web or hardware based are created equally of course.

A variety of issues were raised with Which? when they started their campaign on the speed tester, and updates were said to be on the way, but cannot see anything that has changed particularly. It also chews a lot more data while giving a wrong result, over estimating my connection by 3 Mbps, i.e. 22 Mbps rather than 19 Mbps and have verified numbers watching network interface, oddly figures look ok'ish until the last couple of seconds when they surge for reasons unknown.

Unfortunately a market where one or two options are giving odd results has a tendency to spread the doubt net much wider.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Wed 28-Jun-17 11:57:34
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Re: Amusing results from Whick? broadband test


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Mine also surged at the end:
Which: http://imgur.com/a/KhRra

tbb: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/14986472891...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 28-Jun-17 12:00:24
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No idea what their system records about a test internally, but our storage of the samples has proven very useful over the years, both from diagnostics for the end user, but for providers and ourselves when seeking patterns between users that point towards something untoward but cause unknown.

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Fri 30-Jun-17 12:10:18
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Just tried the Which tester, seems it is NFFP as far as my ADSL1 20CN connection is concerned tongue

https://s2.postimg.org/lyqxtunzt/Which_ST_result_30_...

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 30-Jun-17 12:37:26
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Permission to save that image and tweet it in comparison to one of your recent tbb tests e.g. http://tbb.st/1497101443474707455

?

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Fri 30-Jun-17 13:39:16
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OK

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Fri 30-Jun-17 14:04:12
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[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Thought I'd give the Which tester another chance with my ADSL1 20CN connection, this result from a few minutes ago:-

https://s13.postimg.org/4azm1u1vb/Which_ST_result_30...


frown

Edit :- https://www.thinkbroadband.com/_assets/speedtest/but...

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Edited by Apprentice (Fri 30-Jun-17 14:08:08)

Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 30-Jun-17 14:35:32
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Re: Amusing results from Which? broadband test


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Well Which got mine wrong twice shown below:

Which Test 001
Which Test 002

Speed Test Net (London Server)

TBB HTML5 Speed Test
TBB Flash Speed Test

So Which's tests are rubbish and incorrect.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest | BQM #4 Linksys WRT 3200 ACM

Edited by PaulKirby (Fri 30-Jun-17 14:37:24)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 30-Jun-17 15:26:44
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NOTE: What you labelled as our flash test was not, it is the HTML5 version just download and upload, not the single down and multiple down, then upload

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 30-Jun-17 15:54:01
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
NOTE: What you labelled as our flash test was not, it is the HTML5 version just download and upload, not the single down and multiple down, then upload

Really?
I clicked on the Flash version.

What about this one, this was defiantly via the Flash Link.

Unless its falling back to the HTML5 version due to IPv6 ?

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest | BQM #4 Linksys WRT 3200 ACM

Edited by PaulKirby (Fri 30-Jun-17 15:57:14)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 30-Jun-17 16:22:24
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HTML5 too.

What do you think is the 'flash' link?

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 30-Jun-17 16:34:44
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
HTML5 too.

What do you think is the 'flash' link?

This part:
Alternate Speed Tests
Our old version is still available if you want to run out Flash based tester, but this no longer links to your profile.

I am assuming that is an IPv4 only test.

I can disable my IPv6 and test it.

*** update ***
I disabled IPv6 and redid the test:
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/14988369534...

Ok, it seems that it was running the HTML5 version of the test.

This was the link used in the test:
[IPv4]
http://labs.thinkbroadband.com/flashipv4/

[IPv6]
http://labs.thinkbroadband.com/flashipv6/

The GUI for both tests are nice and Green if that helps.

But it seems I have to also click on the [Get Adobe Player] link where it asks me to allow or block.

Sadly IPv6 reports "Test not run as you are on IPv4." where as https://www.thinkbroadband.com/tools/what-is-my-ip states my IPv6 Address.
You are connecting to us using IPv6!! Yay!
Your IP address is: 2a00:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:5935:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx

Sadly every time I allow flash on (FF, Chrome, Edge etc) and it completes the test the result is displayed on my screen, but all references to that test are invalid and says:
Sorry!
We cannot retrieve your speedtest results. Run a Speed Test now.

Like this one:
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/14988408297...

So something is strange, its not too much of an issue due to I know my connection is fine.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest | BQM #4 Linksys WRT 3200 ACM

Edited by PaulKirby (Fri 30-Jun-17 16:58:50)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 30-Jun-17 17:05:40
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Yeap defaulting to HTML tester when flash is blocked.

Flash is in a bit of a state and not linking to the new systems yet, so runs but no data storage. That will get fixed but will be final code changes to flash.

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 30-Jun-17 17:16:43
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[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Yeap defaulting to HTML tester when flash is blocked.

Flash is in a bit of a state and not linking to the new systems yet, so runs but no data storage. That will get fixed but will be final code changes to flash.

Yeah, I tried the tests a few times all same issue saying it cannot find the results when it completes, so linking to the results is broken.

Also as you are already aware by other posters, the ISP list is also blank.

The IPv6 version of the flash test, doesn't detect I am on IPv6.

So yeah its in a bad state.

Apart from that the HTML5 tests are getting better, its still all over the place due to the way its doing the test, but its a bit more stable than it was before.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest | BQM #4 Linksys WRT 3200 ACM
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 30-Jun-17 22:34:32
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as if by magic I have no FTTC overheads on my upstream and a free 0.8mbit smile

test

50ms latency (I get 8-15 to london)
71.7 down
20.8 up

The compare page is all virgin media, VM still massively oversold and dominating my area.

Sky Fibre Pro BQM - IPv4 BQM - IPv6

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 30-Jun-17 22:36:12)

Standard User Binary_Digit
(regular) Tue 04-Jul-17 18:15:10
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Clearly can't handle Anything over 350 Mbps down or 80 up.

Hyperoptic 1 GB connection gets you.. Poop Speeds

Seems the test server is hosted in London by Iomart Hosting Limited. You'd never guess it by the poor latency.

Edited by Binary_Digit (Tue 04-Jul-17 18:48:20)

ISP Representative Hyperoptic_CS
(isp) Mon 17-Jul-17 17:30:15
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Hello there,

we are very keen for you to be happy with our service.
Can you please send us a PM with your details so that we can investigate and see what we can do.

Thank you in advance,

Jelena

Customer Support
www.hyperoptic.com

Prefer to talk to the team? Call Customer Support on 0333 332 1111 or by email to support@hyperoptic.com
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