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Standard User falko89
(member) Mon 24-Jul-17 18:31:45
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My garden needs dug up for FTTP?


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I ordered BT Infinity FTTP, and this morning randomly at 9am an Openreach guy arrived. He checked out my phone socket etc and said no good, I'm gonna have to go through the garden and lift slabs at the front of the house, install a box in the front garden and then drill through the wall and install another box. He said he would be in touch.

I can't picture this at all, by the talks of him I am gonna have a random box just sitting in my garden about 1 ft away from the door.

Do any of you guys know what I am on about? Can this box not be hidden underground or something? It's gonna be an eyesore if nothing else.
Standard User witchunt
(committed) Mon 24-Jul-17 18:39:11
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Probably the customer splice point, a small wall mounted box that houses connection between the external and internal fibre
http://tom.goskar.com/2013/09/20/my-fibre-to-the-pre...

Edited by witchunt (Mon 24-Jul-17 18:43:25)

Standard User lee111s
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 24-Jul-17 18:48:59
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I've replied in detail on your post on the BT forum.


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Standard User falko89
(member) Mon 24-Jul-17 18:51:06
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Yes thats what he mentioned. The way this guy explained it is this thing is just stuck in my front garden, he then lifts a slab at the front door and runs a cable under it into the house. Surely you just can't leave this randomly in the front garden for the kids to constantly trip over?
Standard User falko89
(member) Mon 24-Jul-17 18:51:42
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Ah yes cheers. Posting on both forums.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Mon 24-Jul-17 19:02:23
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Re: My garden needs dug up for FTTP?


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This is partly correct.

Like witchunt has said its most probably the CSP (Customer Splice Point) where the fibre from the hardware in the chamber by your phone pole if you have one then to your wall of your home.

The fibre then goes into the CSP where it is joint to another fibre going through your wall where it will be connected to the ONT (Fibre Modem) inside your home.

You are aware you can choose from a range of CSP Box colours, I think there a Grey, Brown and White, there might be more, but I have only seen those colours.

I chose the one with the nearest colour that matched the brickwork of our house wall.

You can also tell them where you would like the CSP Box to be placed, within reason that is.

I also asked them to place mine the other side of our bay window due to I wanted the internal hardware that side because of the power socket was that side and it would be easier for the routing of the network cable.

So where you said the BT Engineer said that they would have to dig up / lift slabs etc in your front garden, I assume you have no Phone Pole and everything is under ground?

If so this part might be true if there is not enough room for the fibre cable to be blown down.

But you can still choose the colour of the CSP Box.

Paul

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Standard User falko89
(member) Mon 24-Jul-17 19:20:14
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Yes everything is underground.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 24-Jul-17 19:57:52
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Going by the info in your other thread you appear to live in a new build property. In that case they shouldn't need to dig up anything, they will use the existing underground ducts to feed the fibre for FTTP.

My property is older than your's ( ~ 9 years) yet when they installed FTTP recently nothing at all was dug up and my lawn remained untouched... otherwise missus would have gone bananas LOL

See photos of my install here

https://s18.postimg.org/n3s26bdop/IMG_001.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/76ta9llah/IMG_002.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/nvuq5ihvt/IMG_003.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/h6o6phwjt/IMG_004.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/rurxoc6ix/IMG_005.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/69mv0q9s9/IMG_006.jpg

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Standard User falko89
(member) Mon 24-Jul-17 20:19:20
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Nice tidy job that.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 24-Jul-17 20:32:22
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Its a shame your house wasn't prepared for FTTP like other plots on your estate before you moved in, in that case the grey box (CSP) would have been installed internally and all fibre cabling would have been hidden behind walls. But at least you managed to order native FTTP in the end smile

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Standard User Kaoshan
(committed) Tue 25-Jul-17 16:30:58
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When Virgin recently installed fibre into my property, a 1930s bungalow, they dug a narrow trench from the pavement across the front lawn and a gravel path to the side of the property where they mounted a small, plastic brown box about two feet above ground where the cable comes through the wall into the house. All in all a very quick and hassle free installation with a minimum of mess.

The lawn recovered in a couple of weeks and now the only sign is the box on the side of the house which, as it is beside a bush you can not actually see.
Standard User WWWombat
(knowledge is power) Tue 25-Jul-17 16:54:18
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One point about the CSP is that it is the transition from outdoor cabling (which is good at coping with UV and sunlight) to indoor cabling (low smoke, less of a fire hazard).

As such, it has to be at the point that cables transition from an outdoor environment to an indoor one. And it has to be located somewhere that the engineer can reach with his splicing tools.

Those constrain the location a lot...
Standard User falko89
(member) Tue 25-Jul-17 17:11:52
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I live in a detached house, I am hoping they put it around the side of the house where it would never be seen.
Standard User falko89
(member) Tue 25-Jul-17 17:14:02
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
Going by the info in your other thread you appear to live in a new build property. In that case they shouldn't need to dig up anything, they will use the existing underground ducts to feed the fibre for FTTP.

My property is older than your's ( ~ 9 years) yet when they installed FTTP recently nothing at all was dug up and my lawn remained untouched... otherwise missus would have gone bananas LOL

See photos of my install here

https://s18.postimg.org/n3s26bdop/IMG_001.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/76ta9llah/IMG_002.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/nvuq5ihvt/IMG_003.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/h6o6phwjt/IMG_004.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/rurxoc6ix/IMG_005.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/69mv0q9s9/IMG_006.jpg


Can I ask how long this process takes? By the speak of this guy yesterday its not gonna be done today or tomorrow, he says he has to get a contractor in etc. I asked BT and they said external work done by 2nd and internal on 15th but I can't see that happening.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 25-Jul-17 22:57:26
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Internal cabling & fixing of ONT took around 30 mins but it was a fairly short cable run from the CSP to the ONT as you can see from the photos. External installation of CSP & splicing took an hour or so with no digging whatsoever on my property.

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Edited by baby_frogmella (Wed 26-Jul-17 09:55:47)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 26-Jul-17 10:48:08
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The new connectorised Openreach fibre is meant to have the black outer UV proof part removed on entering property to reveal a white indoor friendly cable. Hence no CSP needed

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Standard User WWWombat
(knowledge is power) Wed 26-Jul-17 13:47:46
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Absolutely true (and quite neat), but I feel the need to point out (for the OP's benefit) that the use of connectorised fibre is dependent on how the rest of the neighbourhood is deployed - it isn't down to a choice for each individual subscriber.

From the OP's original description, it certainly seems that the CSP solution is being used in his locality, not the connectorised variant.
Standard User godsell4
(member) Thu 27-Jul-17 08:25:33
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I have seen FTTP installed at two properties, both involved some sections of the fibre going underground over a short distance, both were done from within about 2 weeks of getting the first visit/survey which it sounds like you have just had.

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Standard User falko89
(member) Thu 27-Jul-17 17:33:58
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2 neighbours had it done today. What seemed to happen was a guy with a small digger came and dug up the street ran something into garden, then dug up a small bit of garden, then Openreach arrived and finished off.
Standard User lee111s
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 27-Jul-17 17:55:03
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Be a contractor installing ducting.

It'll be 100% worth any minor disruption!
Standard User falko89
(member) Wed 02-Aug-17 19:11:49
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Seems like this is gonna drag on, I have a guy coming on Friday to do the outside work, its not even been dug up yet, I have phoned BT FTTH several time who contact Openreach who never give them an answer, as far as they know a contractor hasn't even been booked yet.

After the contractor dug up the neighbours early last week Openreach reach have never appeared to do the outside work, there is just a piece of blue cable sticking up out the front of these houses.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Wed 02-Aug-17 19:15:39
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In reply to a post by falko89:
After the contractor dug up the neighbours early last week Openreach reach have never appeared to do the outside work, there is just a piece of blue cable sticking up out the front of these houses.

They will probably be waiting for them all to be completed before sending the BT Engineer to do the outside work.
And when that BT Engineer arrives to do the outside work he/she will do all of them one after each other.

Paul

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Standard User MC31
(member) Thu 03-Aug-17 18:58:25
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" there is just a piece of blue cable "

Would think thats a drawrope not a cable.

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Aug-17 14:01:30
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" there is just a piece of blue cable "

Would think thats a drawrope not a cable.

Agreed, they use that to pull through the black tubing to which the fibre strands are blown through.

They did the same when they linked all the DP hardware to the Splitter Node down my road.

Paul

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