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Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 07-Sep-17 21:44:11
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Powerline woes


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My router and TV location appear to be on different rings, on the mains power. I've tried power line adapters which are really slow so i'm looking at a Wifi method.

I have a TP Link 9970, could this be used as an extender? Unfortunately my youview box is Ethernet only.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Sep-17 21:47:08
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9970 Wifi isn't that reliable. TP Link said a new firmware was in the works but as yet hasnt arrived. When I was getting Telnet stats over wifi before the wifi would drop out now and again. Using ZyXEL now which seems much more stable.

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Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 07-Sep-17 22:26:32
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Re: Powerline woes


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Hmmm.

How can I get a decent connection to the YouView box if powerline adapts are awful.

Wireless extender?

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Thu 07-Sep-17 22:43:38
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I got TP Link Archer T9UH and they are very good. Excellent wifi adapter. Up to 1900Mbps. My Wifi router is TP Link Archer VR2600 but the VDSL2+ modem only is running by Billion 8800NL.

Edited by adslmax (Thu 07-Sep-17 22:45:30)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 07-Sep-17 22:52:45
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Re: Powerline woes


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The T9UH is a USB wireless device so don't see how it helps.

What original poster is after is a wireless ethernet bridge so something like http://amzn.to/2vQzuSx

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Thu 07-Sep-17 22:54:51
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Thanks for this. I shall order this one instead! Thanks MrSaffron.
Standard User billford
(elder) Thu 07-Sep-17 23:21:29
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
... something like http://amzn.to/2vQzuSx
Lovely comment in a review:
I then did what I (and probably 80% of the population) normally do and tried to install it without referring to the manual......2 minutes later all sorted and working perfectly!!!!
Speaks volumes about consumer networking kit crazy

Time to replace RTFM with ITFM? tongue

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Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 08-Sep-17 00:03:43
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Just ordered one MrS, hopefully it does the job!

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Fri 08-Sep-17 00:13:15
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Re: Powerline woes


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In reply to a post by wolvesmad:
Just ordered one MrS, hopefully it does the job!
What YouView service are you trying to extend? If say BT TV, this uses multicast which only works over ethernet, hence a wifi extender like this would only work for things such as Netflix, 4OD, ITV player etc, but it would not provide you any of the BT TV channels over multicast such as BT Sport (all channels), TLC, MTV etc.

Generally speaking providers only offer Ethernet solutions for this reason (e.g powerline or a long ethernet cable).

EDIT: Seen TalkTalk signature, apparently boost channels etc work fine on TalkTalk Youview over WiFi adaptors provided they support IGMP.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Fri 08-Sep-17 00:18:43)

Standard User lee111s
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 08-Sep-17 08:40:30
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You can still use a device as shown above by Mr S.

It's how my parents BT TV works and their IPTV channels work fine.

Ethernet to the wireless bridge plugged into the wall, which then connects wireleslly to the home hub.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 08-Sep-17 09:41:30
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The times when wireless breaks multicast is when people replace the ISP supplied router and that does not support multicast

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Standard User jabuzzard
(learned) Fri 08-Sep-17 12:58:25
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Honestly give up and run some Cat5e. A quick check on eBay shows you can get a 30m patch cable for £5 delivered.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 08-Sep-17 13:03:45
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The cost isn't necessarily the issue - not all houses are suitable for running wiring like that, it could be a rental that doesn't allow it or it could be the only sensible route is surface mount which may not be an option (I hear some houses have an optional extra that makes this impossible to do - I believe they are often called "the wife").
Standard User WWWombat
(knowledge is power) Fri 08-Sep-17 13:27:20
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I bought some flat ethernet cable, and routed it out through the window, and round the outside. It is thin enough to squash through the rubber seals easily.

Some clear plastic command-strip clips (the type meant for christmas decorations) keep the cable in place when the windows are open.

The only downside is that is internal cable, so UV will wreck it eventually. It is still going after 2 years, though.

Inside the room, I have used some shaped conduit, laid against the bottom of the skirting. This is enough camouflage to pass the SWMBO test.
Standard User JohnR
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 08-Sep-17 21:07:52
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In reply to a post by ian72:
it could be the only sensible route is surface mount which may not be an option (I hear some houses have an optional extra that makes this impossible to do - I believe they are often called "the wife").


Or they have a dog/cat that loves to chew anything & everything..... Mine love any sort of cable they can get their teeth into.
I installed cable under the floorboards, but you still have the run to the device which are a prime target when your back is turned....

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sat 09-Sep-17 01:01:19
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The times when wireless breaks multicast is when people replace the ISP supplied router and that does not support multicast
How sure are you on this?

As in I tried 3 wireless adapters on BT TV and could not get BT sport and other channels to work.

AFAIK BT Homehubs have never sent multicast over wireless.

The only way this has ever been achieved that I can see is where users put a wifi device into the home hub over Ethernet, then connect to this with another wifi bridge at the other end.

You will note using a bridge as suggested will only give access to catchup and iPlayer not multicast TV channels.

https://community.bt.com/t5/YouView-Boxes/Using-YouV...

https://community.bt.com/t5/YouView-Boxes/Can-you-co...

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/42931... - no option for wifi

https://community.bt.com/t5/YouView-Boxes/Using-a-TP...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 09-Sep-17 09:33:30
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Mmm if the router is splitting traffic and not sending the multicast over Wi-Fi then any adaptor won't work.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sat 09-Sep-17 10:45:56
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Yep that was my experience.

Some users take a wireless access point, connect it to the homehub via Ethernet, name it something unique. They then place another wireless bridge where the BT TV is and connect it to the unique SSID. Apparently this did work ok for some, but quite a messy setup.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 09-Sep-17 11:28:21
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Never plumped for BT TV in the year I had the service so never got to play around, change the TV viewing connection at end of every contract...someone has to test migration processes

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