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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 07-Oct-17 10:39:19
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What does this checker show for your VDSL Downstream Handback Threshold?

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Standard User bsdnazz
(learned) Sat 07-Oct-17 10:48:49
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Re: FTTP - it is described as "dedicated fibre to the premises line" - But I do not know any more than that at this stage. Some of the funding is being used to reduce the monthly costs.


This does sound like a standard fibre based leased line rather than FTTP Broadband. We have a couple of fibre leased lines at work each giving us 100/100Mb costing closed to £10,000 each year.

Three years grant scheme could well bring down the costs for a while but as you say the price then goes right up. Do you know what the price after 3 years is?
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sat 07-Oct-17 10:56:39
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If you want to do it right, get a leased line. Very expensive though. £80 seems crazy low


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Standard User Lordo
(newbie) Sat 07-Oct-17 12:22:55
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What does this checker show for your VDSL Downstream Handback Threshold?


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Standard User Lordo
(newbie) Sat 07-Oct-17 12:35:13
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Does anyone happen to have any historical information on leased line prices - eg - how they have fallen over the past 5 or 10 years?

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Standard User Lordo
(newbie) Sat 07-Oct-17 12:43:08
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In reply to a post by Lordo:
Re: FTTP - it is described as "dedicated fibre to the premises line" - But I do not know any more than that at this stage. Some of the funding is being used to reduce the monthly costs.


This does sound like a standard fibre based leased line rather than FTTP Broadband. We have a couple of fibre leased lines at work each giving us 100/100Mb costing closed to £10,000 each year.

Three years grant scheme could well bring down the costs for a while but as you say the price then goes right up. Do you know what the price after 3 years is?


On the preview quote, it said it would increase in price to just under £700pm for 30mb connection - but three years at £80 would be ok if I was to gamble on A - prices for leased lines coming down., or B - Openreach/BT getting round to upgrading our network to be able to receive fast fibre broadband..,. I could always look at other solutions after 3 years too -

Also, would this leased line be the same type of leased line that BT offer (BTnet Express @ £225pm)>?

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 07-Oct-17 12:56:22
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Yes they have how much varies from area to area

But £80 per month sounds amazingly cheap, unless you happen to be in a city with a metro fibre network from CityFibre

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 07-Oct-17 13:00:15
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
What does this checker show for your VDSL Downstream Handback Threshold?


It shows this
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Looking at long term costs, it might be cheaper to order the 'FTTP On Demand' product which would give you at least 330/30 Mbps. Of course it won't have the same SLA and speed guarantees as a leased line service but after 3 years, the costs of FTTPoD fall to 'native' FTTP levels. I believe Ceberus are selling FTTPoD for £165 pm (3 year min term) & of course installation costs which vary from £2k to £10k+ based on how far you are from the nearest agg node. Not sure if you will get a grant towards FTTPoD costs though.

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Standard User Lordo
(newbie) Sat 07-Oct-17 13:21:33
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Yes they have how much varies from area to area

But £80 per month sounds amazingly cheap, unless you happen to be in a city with a metro fibre network from CityFibre


The £80pm is being quoted as some of the grant money is going towards reducing the monthly cost as well as the installation - The grant is quite substantial.

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Standard User Lordo
(newbie) Sat 07-Oct-17 13:25:55
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In reply to a post by Lordo:
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
What does this checker show for your VDSL Downstream Handback Threshold?


It shows this
Speeds


Looking at long term costs, it might be cheaper to order the 'FTTP On Demand' product which would give you at least 330/30 Mbps. Of course it won't have the same SLA and speed guarantees as a leased line service but after 3 years, the costs of FTTPoD fall to 'native' FTTP levels. I believe Ceberus are selling FTTPoD for £165 pm (3 year min term) & of course installation costs which vary from £2k to £10k+ based on how far you are from the nearest agg node. Not sure if you will get a grant towards FTTPoD costs though.


Installation costs are not so much of a concern as the grant is quite generous - but the only products I will be able to choose from will be those which are quoted for by companies registered with the scheme who quote through the grant portal - So it is FTTP on Demand which I should be asking these people to quote on right? - When you say after 3 years, the costs fall to native FTTP levels, what would "native" costs be in the region of? - This sounds like the best option if I can get someone to quote on it.

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