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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 08-Oct-16 13:23:41
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Currently I run my Crucial SSD on a sata II port and get about 300 mb/s read/write. Is it worth getting a sata III 6gb adapter to see if I can get the full 500 mb/s on my system and will I notice any difference? Have seen a PCIe x1 SATA III adapter on Novatech for £20 but will I also be able to boot from it on my MSI P35 Neo F motherboard? I think I have 2 x PCIe x1 slots but one is taken up by graphics card heat sink.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Oct-16 18:36:37
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No opinions?

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Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 18:59:24
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I did find a good SATA II vs. SATA III benchmarking article and I was going to post a link to it, but now I've forgotten where it is. I'll see if I can find it again for you.

Have you made sure that your system is disk I/O bound? If it isn't, then providing a faster interface for your SSD is unlikely to provide any overall improvement, although some operations may be slightly quicker. You should really do some system monitoring to see if your SSD is currently causing a bottleneck. If it isn't, you'll likely just be throwing money away buying a SATA III card.


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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Oct-16 19:31:12
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Define disk I/O bound? Its an MSI P35 Neo F motherboard.

Tim
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Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 19:36:32
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Have you done any system monitoring? What is the average disk utilisation? When I did performance tuning on mainframes and minicomputers, any disk utilisation of 30% or more was considered "high" and in need of rectification. I normally liked to see disk utilisations of no more than 15%. However, things may be different in the PC world.
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Oct-16 19:47:00
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Other than benchmarking no, I have had the odd peek at task manager performance tab but that usually only gives current utilisation over a minute duration. Utilisation is no more than 3% on that graph.

Tim
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Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 19:52:08
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The chances are that you'll see better benchmarks but little other improvement. Still, if it floats your boat...

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Oct-16 19:54:33
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I know I cant help myself but I think you just save me £20

Tim
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Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:00:57
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That's a bottle of rum in my reckoning. wink
Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:02:13
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Eclipse frown
Standard User TinyMongomery
(knowledge is power) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:02:36
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I don't think you can apply the same metrics to a PC as to a mainframe. The former is used primarily for single-user interactive work and so it is instantaneous performance that is important. That would seem to indicate that an upgrade to SATA 3 would be worth it. However, tests have been done and show that this is not necessarily true. For example, see: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ssd-upgrade-sata-3gbps...

Prsonally, I wouldn't expect any significant increase in performance just (very) marginal reductions in program load times. As to the particular combination of hardware, you'd have to try it and see. On the other hand, £20 isn't a fortune.

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Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:03:32
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Eclipse? confused
Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:04:57
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That's the article that I was looking for. Thanks! smile
Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:10:05
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Rum. It's just not Black Barrel
Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:15:19
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I've never acquired a taste for whisky, and I don't see much point in doing so since it can be an expensive hobby. I do like brandy but, given a choice between drinking cheap rum and cheap brandy, I'd go for the rum any time. My favourite is Appleton Estate V/X - lovely flavour and as dry as a bone (no added sugar).
Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:18:54
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I know what you mean, that's why I'm talking about Mount Gay rums.. and obviously being keenly interested in replacement SSDs right now.
Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:23:18
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I did try some Mount Gay and it was awful - I poured it down the sink.
Standard User TinyMongomery
(knowledge is power) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:25:27
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Did it clean the drains adequately?

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Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:28:06
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I imagine it kept the sewer rats happy for a while.
Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:39:27
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I dunno, perhaps it made a difference actually being on the brewery tour
Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:48:09
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Do tell us more, but in The Park. wink
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 12-Oct-16 20:01:02
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The conclusion of that article is that for the average desktop user with average apps. there is no advantage of going 6gb unless your moving massive amounts of data which I am not.

Tim
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