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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Mar-17 17:19:26
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Ryzen 5


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So a new cheaper Ryzen is coming out in April, called the Ryzen 5, looks interesting, but now got me thinking of either going for the more expensive 7, or go for the cheaper 5, what ever I get it will certainly be better than what I have got.

Microsoft is blocking updates for windows 7 and 8 on the newer processors, which is to be honest out of order, if people ant to run 7 or 8 on these CPU's then they should be allowed to. i can understand Ms not supporting them, but to block the updates, that is just typ;icle of Ms throwing their toys out of the pram if they can not get their way.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Apr-17 19:07:15
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I've got a Ryzen 5 1600 and i am really, really impressed, it goes like the clappers.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 20-Apr-17 20:39:45
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I've got a Ryzen 5 1600 and i am really, really impressed, it goes like the clappers.


I have heard good things about it, what memory are you using?

i must admit I am still thinking of going for the R7 1700x,

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 21-Apr-17 11:05:34
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I was nervous about it not booting so i played it safe and went for a single 8GB stick of Crucial DDR 4 2400. I figured it was going to feel a millions time faster than what i had so better safe than sorry, i didnt even go for single rank or a kit to run in dual channel mode lol

I can be a bit more adventuous when the BIOS updates have slowed down and things settle.
Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Fri 21-Apr-17 17:19:23
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I can be a bit more adventurous when the BIOS updates have slowed down and things settle.
I was going to ask about stability, but now I don't think I need to. I haven't had to do a BIOS update since I moved from AMD to Intel. Before that, I was doing them all the time, and not because it was a hobby. Some things never change, apparently.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 21-Apr-17 17:27:11
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I was nervous about it not booting so i played it safe and went for a single 8GB stick of Crucial DDR 4 2400. I figured it was going to feel a millions time faster than what i had so better safe than sorry, i didnt even go for single rank or a kit to run in dual channel mode lol

I can be a bit more adventuous when the BIOS updates have slowed down and things settle.



i am looking at getting a couple of Corsair Vengeance LPX of 8GB each at 3200Mhz, I have no idea if they are single rank or not, how do you tell if it is not in the specs?

Getting a couple of sticks instead of populating all four, means I can stick more in at some other point, not that I seem myself doing that.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Apr-17 10:32:50
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To be honest with you with just a single stick of PC2400 the cinebench scores on the 1600 are identical to the cinebench scores on the 1600x with presumably better RAM, the test i have seen they got 1136 and mine got 1129
Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Apr-17 10:46:04
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In reply to a post by Alnath:
I can be a bit more adventurous when the BIOS updates have slowed down and things settle.
I was going to ask about stability, but now I don't think I need to. I haven't had to do a BIOS update since I moved from AMD to Intel. Before that, I was doing them all the time, and not because it was a hobby. Some things never change, apparently.


I also moved from AMD to Intel and after 8 years i'm back with AMD.

When i set up my Intel stuff i remember having to do a couple of BIOS updates but after moving from Windows XP to Windows 7 i never had to do anything else the BIOS releases had stopped and as i went through subsequent versions of Windows i never had to do clean installs or owt so having to start again was a bit of a shock.

When i set this up i had the BIOS ready, i thought if that goes belly up i can do it before i have finished not afterwards. Anyway everything is installed and its fine, it is no less stable than my Intel parts were, the only thing i have done is set the fan profiles myself because the front case fan was running too loud.
Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 01-May-17 09:59:08
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I have had it running at 3.8Ghz with the stock cooler and default voltages, using the CPU-z stress test it just sat at 57c for an hour with the fans not that loud at all.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 04-May-17 10:48:37
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Well I have decided to go with the R7, i think it will be the 1700, but I did think about the 1700X, but not sure if the extra cost is worth it.
I will have to have a look and see if I can find any benchtests for all the processors.

the 1700 comes with a cooler, the 1700x don't, the problem is getting coolers for AM4 at the moment, sure you can get free brackets, but companies like Cryorig want proof of purchase for the cooler and the main board and it may takes for them to send the bracket


How noisy is the stock cooler? My FX 8350 have the stock cooler on and is pretty quiet, it is the video card fans that get noisy here.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 06-May-17 10:00:36
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My PC is on the bench so the front case fan (a 120mm Noctua) around 12 inches from my right ear and the Wraith Spire is silent when you are just surfing etc. My front case fan at the slowest speed makes more noise (a very low hum). Under maximum load when everything spins up it makes some noise but it isn't deafening, i'm running the CPU-z stress test as i write this (processor is at 56.4c) and i still comfortably hear the radio which is 5 feet to my left, i can mainly hear air rushing in to the case because the front fan has spun up, when i walked about 8 feet away i couldn't hear the PC over the radio.

Playing X-Com on the highest settings at 1080p with a lowly GTX 750Ti is runs at 150fps and no fans spin up at all. That said it isn't the worlds most taxing game is it.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 10-May-17 08:25:51
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Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 or any ryzen chip :)


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My video card is the noisy thing on my machine, it have twin fans and can be a bit loud when it gets going.

I am still trying to decide which way to go, it will certainly be between the R7 1700 or the 1700X, memoryis still a problem, should I go for 3200Mhz or go to the 2666Mhz.
I doubt my machine will ever be over clocked.

I have been looking around the net and getting more confused all the time, would a 1700X give me much more performance for the extra £50, exactly it will be more than that because I would have to get a cooler and would I get any benefit out of going for the more expensive 32000Mhz memory?

this is the problem with the Ryzen being so new.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 10-May-17 09:24:01
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I have a single stick 8GB of 2400MHz mate, i didn't even take advantage of a dual channel set up and my processor isn't any slower than any other real world benchmarks i have seen online so i cant say it is holding it back any.

Mine is all stock and not over clocked, i only did it briefly to see what it could do, i'd rather have the quiet than the speed lol
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 24-May-17 14:29:06
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Re: Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 or any ryzen chip :)


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Ordered the bits today, gone for a Ryzen 7 1700, 16GB of 2666Mhz memory 2x8GB, gone for corsair and an Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4, it was only a tenner more than the pro 4, more or less the same specs, but a slightly better built board. oh yes and something called Fatality mouse port, what ever that is.
Cost £552 from Scan and that includes next day delivery before 12 and £15 for a 28 day installation damage insurance. I have never done that before, but with the CPU being the price it is, I thought maybe safer than sorry,

I was going to go for the 1700X, but decided not to because of the price for the extra bit of power which is minimal.


What surprised me is that I put the order in and about 10 mins after I had a text to say it have been processed, picked and dispatched. I take it when they say dispatched they mean it is out of the warehouse and ready to be picked up. Still impressive.

ea

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 25-May-17 07:39:50
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Nice one.

I have put an Arctic Freezer 33 on my R5 1600 and i am impressed as my PC is now all but silent. I have the fan set to keep spinning rather than it turning off, i don't like the idea of it turning off ill be honest.

Anyway it is now sat as i type this at 28c.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 25-May-17 07:59:35
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Should be here today before 12, that is when I ordered it for. Ik will use the included cooler i doubt it is any louder than the fans on the video card, they get pretty loud.

i also ordered a shuttle express, i was going to get the large version, but I do not really need that, just something with a jog shuttle control and some buttons I can program. But that will not be here for a week or so.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 26-May-17 08:17:43
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Well as i said earlier the Wraith Spire is quiet enough and works well smile
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 26-May-17 21:34:19
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Yes, it is pretty quiet. We will se how well it works when I get rendering.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 27-May-17 09:38:55
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i predict it will get louder lol
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 27-May-17 10:13:51
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i predict it will get louder lol

Me too, but I have to use it for that to happen.

got memory management problems, just booted into a tester and testing memory, just to see if it is the memory that is the problem. It could be just drivers on Windows 8.1, if I can not solve it then I will have to install Windows flipping 10.

I am using my poor laptop at the moment.

I got pop into town, meeting a friend or two for coffee. then back to sort out machine, maybe I should have stuck with my old one

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-May-17 18:02:49
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All up and running now, but only after installing spyware windows 10, well it seems to be working at the moment. We will see.

If it stays stable then I will have to get rid of Cortana, find some decent software to stop MS spying, get rid of the lock screen and get rid of the awful start menu. i have already got rid of some of the apps that Ms do not want us to get rid off.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 29-May-17 09:50:21
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Mine has been rock solid (ooer) so far for the first month or so at any rate.

I put a GTX 1050Ti in it yesterday so it is a great 1080p games machine as well now. Formula Fusion runs beautifully even at epic settings. i didn't buy it for this reason but the gigabyte windforce card i bought runs passively pretty much all of the time so more lovely quietness lol
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 29-May-17 18:06:05
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What Os are you running on it? Mine seems to be fine with Windows 10 on it, but not with windows 8, I presume it was a driver problem, I will have another go at some point, I really do not want to keep Windows 10 on here.

i am not really a games player, which is why I did not update my video card, i have a Sapphire AMD R9 280, to be honest it is pretty good and unless it goes wrong or I mange to palm it off to someone at a decent price I will keep it.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 30-May-17 11:15:25
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Windows 10, been running it from day one to be honest smile

I'm not really a gamer either, just casually play from time to time, the GTX 1050Ti is definitely low end but had more grunt than the 750Ti it replaced. So for encoding and image editing it has to help speed things up with programs that can make use of it.

I got £65 for my GTX 750Ti so the jobs a good'un really.
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