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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Fri 11-Mar-11 09:25:17
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Re: LLU


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Several. I think Be* is the only one I'd risk, though I haven't checked whether there are any new ones for ages. I could not foresee ever leaving IDNet. How would LLU help?

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IDNet

Sync: Was 8128 / 896 + kbps; now interleaved at 8096/896 kbps
IP Profile was 7150 kbps; now 7000 kbps
SNR Margin: 15-12.5 dB
Line Attenuation: 20.0 dB
SpeedTouch 585

I am approximately 930 metres from the exchange (straight line distance)
Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Fri 11-Mar-11 09:26:16
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Re: Quiet line test


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I've run quiet line tests since the issue started and its as silent as the grave.

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IDNet

Sync: Was 8128 / 896 + kbps; now interleaved at 8096/896 kbps
IP Profile was 7150 kbps; now 7000 kbps
SNR Margin: 15-12.5 dB
Line Attenuation: 20.0 dB
SpeedTouch 585

I am approximately 930 metres from the exchange (straight line distance)
Standard User JNeuhoff
(committed) Fri 11-Mar-11 10:12:43
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Re: LLU


[re: ARD] [link to this post]
 
How would LLU help?


LLU made a big difference in our case. Our line is 2 to 3 times faster now compared to what we had with the IDnet 20CN MaxDSL, and so far we experienced no network congestions. We are now with Xilo's CPW LLU.

J.Neuhoff - MHC Web Design

Edited by JNeuhoff (Fri 11-Mar-11 11:58:03)


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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Fri 11-Mar-11 10:45:18
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Re: LLU


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Ah but my present concern is line stability rather than speed. Would LLU elp that issue if IDNet don't come good?

BTW I've just checked SamKnows and O2 and Be* are listed together. Did one buy the other out?

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IDNet

Sync: Was 8128 / 896 + kbps; now interleaved at 8096/896 kbps
IP Profile was 7150 kbps; now 7000 kbps
SNR Margin: 15-12.5 dB
Line Attenuation: 20.0 dB
SpeedTouch 585

I am approximately 930 metres from the exchange (straight line distance)
Standard User Linc
(committed) Fri 11-Mar-11 12:17:41
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Re: LLU


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I was with IDNet up until January 2008 when we moved house (to another area) My speeds were very very slow - between 200 to 300 Kbps. IDNet did what they could but, apart from offering to put me on a fixed 1Mbps line, they couldn't solve the problem. I moved to Sky LLU and have had rock-steady 4000Kbps ever since. I have never had to contact Sky Customer Service simply because I have never had a problem since joining them. The only reason now that I would leave Sky LLU is to go onto BT Infinity but, at the moment I can't justify the cost to 'her indoors'. smile

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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Fri 11-Mar-11 12:26:48
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Thanks for your story smile

(Good luck with "her indoors". My brother is having the same problem. wink )

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IDNet

Sync: Was 8128 / 896 + kbps; now interleaved at 8096/896 kbps
IP Profile was 7150 kbps; now 7000 kbps
SNR Margin: 15-12.5 dB
Line Attenuation: 20.0 dB
SpeedTouch 585

I am approximately 930 metres from the exchange (straight line distance)
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 11-Mar-11 13:37:51
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Re: LLU


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In reply to a post by ARD:
Thanks for your story smile

(Good luck with "her indoors". My brother is having the same problem. wink )
In that case he probably doesn't want Linc knowing about it tongue.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.
Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Fri 11-Mar-11 13:43:24
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Oooooooooops!


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Forum users' humour does help ease Internet agony at times laugh

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IDNet

Sync: Was 8128 / 896 + kbps; now interleaved at 8096/896 kbps
IP Profile was 7150 kbps; now 7000 kbps
SNR Margin: 15-12.5 dB
Line Attenuation: 20.0 dB
SpeedTouch 585

I am approximately 930 metres from the exchange (straight line distance)
Standard User Linc
(committed) Fri 11-Mar-11 15:19:52
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Re: Oooooooooops!


[re: ARD] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by ARD:
Thanks for your story smile

(Good luck with "her indoors". My brother is having the same problem. wink )
In that case he probably doesn't want Linc knowing about it tongue.


ROFLMAO

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Fri 11-Mar-11 15:27:02
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Re: LLU


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In reply to a post by ARD:
Ah but my present concern is line stability rather than speed. Would LLU elp that issue if IDNet don't come good?


Depends what the problem is; if its physical on the copper (or aluminium) between you and the exchange and some rubbish connections, then the problem will follow you to any ISP.

If the problem is caused by BTwholesale's DSLAMs, then changing to another BTwholesale (20/21CN) using ISP would probably make no difference.

LLU providers install their own DSLAMs into the exchange building and pay OpenReach to connect your cable to their equipment instead of BTwholesale's. Then they can offer products and settings that BTwholesale don't make available to their customers. Generally this results in more usage for same money - or alternatively really low monthly fees (e.g. TalkTalk) - because the ISP doesn't have to pay the BTwholesale charges.

Also an LLU ISP can set technical parameters directly (interleave, target SNR margin) without having to go through BTw systems.

BTW I've just checked SamKnows and O2 and Be* are listed together. Did one buy the other out?


O2 is owned by Telefonica, and Telefonica bought BE. We understand the O2 LLU products are run by the BE technical team, on the same network but the traffic is not joined. O2's products now have traffic shaping for the money - BE's products are higher cost but no traffic shaping.

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
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