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Standard User peewee
(member) Wed 20-Jul-11 12:20:23
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BT prices to fall on IPstream products


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Just read the news item about BT being forced to reduce wholesale prices for 'up to 8 meg' IPstream services by 12% below inflation over next couple of years. As IDNet have a large proportion of customers on this product this may well come as welcome news.

I have a request, which others may have a view on, that if we are to see a price reduction could we also see a situation where BT are requested to bundle up greater dowload allowances within the package. In my case, 40g is no longer enough but 60g would be. I would be happy to keep paying the current£35/month if the allowances were evened up and use the savings to fund this. After all, the BT measure that Ofcom are forcing on them is supposed to bring Market 1 exchanges into line with unbundled.

I'm sure there are many other permulation around this rather than just reducing prices.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 12:28:56
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... could we also see a situation where BT are requested to bundle up greater dowload allowances within the package
BT do not design the allowance packages. The ISP does.

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Standard User peewee
(member) Wed 20-Jul-11 12:47:31
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Re: BT prices to fall on IPstream products


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BT or Idnet - whoever does it, still same question.


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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 16:30:09
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Re: BT prices to fall on IPstream products


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IDnet weren't identified as a user of IPStream Connect which is the only product affected.

Is that still the case ?

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ISP Representative miriam_idnet
(isp) Thu 21-Jul-11 11:57:02
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ISP Representative miriam_idnet
(isp) Thu 21-Jul-11 11:57:02
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Re: BT prices to fall on IPstream products


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Hi Peewee,

This reduction only applies to "Market 1" Exchanges, that is, those where only BT Wholesale is present (i.e. no LLU available) which is therefore mostly the smaller rural exchanges that serve a relatively small proportion of the population. We hope that BT will provide significant cost reductions so that we can pass these onto our customers in the form of price reduction or an increase in download allowance.

However, this new rule from Ofcom only covers ADSL Max ("up-to-8Mbps") at those Exchanges. BT Wholesale expect to increase their nationwide coverage of ADSL2+ ("up-to-24Mbps") to 80% of premises by the end of this year - there are much increased bandwidth allowances available on this service. Moreover, this new rule from Ofcom is to reduce the cost by just 12% per annum but as BT have announced their intention to retire ADSL Max by Spring 2014 (at those Exchanges that have been upgraded to support ADSL2+) then Ofcom's new rule may not have a chance to have much, if any, effect.

Kind regards,

Miriam
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ISP Representative simon_idnet
(isp) Thu 21-Jul-11 13:14:44
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IDnet weren't identified as a user of IPStream Connect which is the only product affected.

Is that still the case ?


We do take IP Stream Connect.
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Standard User peewee
(member) Thu 21-Jul-11 16:00:22
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Hi Miriam,

Thanks for the info. I am indeed one of those on a Mkt 1 exchange which appears to have no hope in the foreseable of a 21CN upgrade although one was briefly threatened last year and withdrawn - (Woburn Sands SMWS). There's also no LLU so I believe I'm one of those affected?

If I'm honest, with a largish family of downloaders and streamers the connection I have is good but just lacks the 'unlimited' download capacity I would receive from an LLU'd exchange. I have to keep tabs on what they all do as without I'd end up doubling the cost each month.

I realise that if I do end up being 21CN'd then the new rule doesn;t apply but by then I'd be much happier.

Peewee
Moderator billford
(moderator) Thu 21-Jul-11 16:09:39
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I have to keep tabs on what they all do as without I'd end up doubling the cost each month.
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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Thu 21-Jul-11 18:16:55
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In reply to a post by peewee:
Thanks for the info. I am indeed one of those on a Mkt 1 exchange which appears to have no hope in the foreseable of a 21CN upgrade although one was briefly threatened last year and withdrawn - (Woburn Sands SMWS). There's also no LLU so I believe I'm one of those affected?


Same as a friend of mine who is 6 miles from me, and I'm on an exchange with all the big providers, yet he is on a tiny 2,460 line exchange.
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/THHW

(Whats up with Samknows? It says THHW and yours are Market 2 when they're obviously 1 !)

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