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Standard User harriscw
(newbie) Sat 20-Apr-13 09:57:18
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Bonding


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Hi all, new to the forum but not new to idnet having been loyal to them for a few years now after a disasterous O2 experience (ask me another day)

So my question is about bonding - not hugs, but ADSL !

I live in the boonies and get 2Mb down and under 400k up - yes, really.

Its looking like I will be working from home (yay!) supporting video conferencing (boo).
By now you can probably see where I'm going with this. Yes, I've made sort-of OK video calls from home but now feel this really doesn't 'cut the mustard' and want to get better performance. So with a bit of googling and reading up in the last hour, I'm at the point where I THINK (jump in here if I've missed something) that something like SharedBand Bonded ADSL service for about £400 for 12 months (excl lines) sounds like it should work and basically I can expect a doubling of up&down speeds.

So, getting to the point, as I have a overhead copper phone line to the house, I take it I will need a 2nd installed.
Can I arrange this thru idnet and is it going to cost me dear? I've read some posts on line installation but this isnt the same as 2nd line installation, so I wouldnt want to assume.

Please let me know. Thanks in advance.
Chris
Standard User zom22
(newbie) Sat 20-Apr-13 10:19:02
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Re: Bonding


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If you are going to be running a business then cheap domestic mass market broadband is not what you need to be looking for.
Indeed it will probably be against the T&C's of all the ISP's to run a business from a domestic broadband line.

You need a bespoke commercial solution for your instance and that may include bonded lines and leased lines from an ISP that has a business orientated side to them - or specialises in that field. Solutions may depend on what infrastructure is available - if there are not enough spare line pairs available then multiple bonding as one option ain't feasible.
Snag is all these solutions are always very expensive - or to put it another way it makes you realise how cheap is mass market domestic broadband.

As ever with commercial solutions prices are subject to negotiation between the parties rather than being sort of fixed. A new line might be "free" but you'd pay for it via long contract periods and high monthly charges instead.
Standard User billford
(elder) Sat 20-Apr-13 11:00:06
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Re: Bonding


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Drop an email to support- contactus@idnet.com

They'll find out exactly what you want/need and give you the available options and costs.

Bill
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Standard User gah789
(newbie) Sat 20-Apr-13 12:47:05
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The line between residential and business services is much fuzzier than this implies. Many of the terms and conditions stated by ISPs are vague and/or unenforceable. What about people who work at home in the evening or weekends - is that business use? Most business services are differentiated by service level agreements for support and a whole variety of other features which you may not need.

Still, you may be better advised to look for alternatives to line bonding which requires specialised equipment, hence the much higher cost. For example you could consider a Ka or Ku satellite connection with quality of service support for either VOIP or video conferencing streams. Many people find this acceptable for limited video conferencing.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 20-Apr-13 16:21:44
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In reply to a post by harriscw:
So, getting to the point, as I have a overhead copper phone line to the house, I take it I will need a 2nd installed.
The overhead line carries two or three pairs, of which you are using one. A second line would normally be supplied using one of the spare pairs. So you wouldn't need a new overhead wire.

The bonding question I'm not qualified to advise on.

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Standard User harriscw
(newbie) Sun 21-Apr-13 07:47:19
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Thanks all,
I'll check idnets T's & C's w.r.t. whether this classifies as business use - although I doubt I'm going to put much load on their infrastructure running 2 x 2Mb ADSLs wink
RobertoS - thanks for pointing out I have 2/3 pairs already, in theory I shouldn't be looking at a big bill to get that 2nd line then.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who uses the SharedBand product but maybe thats a question for another forum.

Cheers
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 21-Apr-13 12:14:22
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A line is a fixed price (for each service provider) - first, second, third, or whatever. Depending on the package you take that can be free, up to something like £130 I think. It's certainly in normal circumstances independent of the external supply requirements.

It may pay to shop around for the phone line separately from the bonding or whatever - unless the chosen company for that will deal.

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ISP Representative simon_idnet
(isp) Mon 22-Apr-13 09:36:09
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We support MLPPP (Multi-link PPP) so you will need a router that supports this. We have tested with Cisco routers but they can be quite pricey - there may be other manaufaturers that support MLPP.
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Standard User Ev_Networks
(newbie) Wed 18-Dec-13 11:31:18
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You can now get live data compression, QoS and enhancements to TCP on bonded internet connections.

Might be worth looking into depending of if you have made your decision yet.

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