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Standard User Marky76
(newbie) Tue 02-Aug-16 12:52:36
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Re: Using iPlayer or catch up TV , pay for a licence


[re: tommy45] [link to this post]
 
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They should tackle the vpn providers that stream live to to Europe first
Why there could be UK tv tax payers wanting to catch up whilst on holiday or working away? and that is a different thing altogether (GEO blocking )
Also they wouldn't be able to do anything about them as they are not based in the uk


U.K. Tax payers? What you mean freeloading ex pats. BBC just needs to get with the program and scrap tv license. Just go for a subscription model
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Tue 02-Aug-16 14:23:40
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Re: Using iPlayer or catch up TV , pay for a licence


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In reply to a post by Marky76:
In reply to a post by tommy45:
In reply to a post by Marky76:
They should tackle the vpn providers that stream live to to Europe first
Why there could be UK tv tax payers wanting to catch up whilst on holiday or working away? and that is a different thing altogether (GEO blocking )
Also they wouldn't be able to do anything about them as they are not based in the uk


U.K. Tax payers? What you mean freeloading ex pats. BBC just needs to get with the program and scrap tv license. Just go for a subscription model
I wish it would it would be dead within 5 yrs, And i said holiday makers who go to EU countries or further. there is also a lot of people who work in other European countries that like to catch up , and as you mention it ext pats too

Edited by tommy45 (Tue 02-Aug-16 14:26:11)

Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Tue 02-Aug-16 14:29:08
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Re: Using iPlayer or catch up TV , pay for a licence


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Also an IP address alone isn't proof beyond reasonable doubt...

Not proof of the person, I agree, but certainly proof of address. And TV licenses are key'ed off of addresses - that's how they are able to send threatening letters to addresses that don't have one.
they already have a database of addresses without a TV licence , and have been sending their generic Threat-o-gram's on a near monthly basis , in a cycle rinse & repeat mode for years


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Standard User arendall667
(regular) Tue 02-Aug-16 16:16:54
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Wonder if this means you will need a licence if you own an internet connected computer or console as you now own a device capable of receiving BBC transmissions (much like you can't own a TV or a digital TV recorder and say you will never watch the BBC).

Bet I can guess how Capita (who I believe are the current licence hunters) will try and enforce it.

Edited by arendall667 (Tue 02-Aug-16 16:17:42)

Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 02-Aug-16 16:24:16
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Nothing has changed on that score. You could already own a PC that was capable of showing the live stream and that already required a license. All this does is extend the license requirement to the catch up as well.
Standard User Davey_H
(learned) Tue 02-Aug-16 18:07:16
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Nothing has changed on that score. You could already own a PC that was capable of showing the live stream and that already required a license. All this does is extend the license requirement to the catch up as well.


Just to be clear, owning a PC/device capable of watching (or recording') TV as it's broadcast live didn't require a TV Licence.

A licence was Only required if you used it for those purposes.

Edited by Davey_H (Tue 02-Aug-16 18:09:17)

Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 03-Aug-16 07:46:19
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That is correct. I was correcting the fact that there seemed to be a belief that something had changed on the PC front - but in reality it hasn't because you could already own a PC that could have been used to break the TV licensing rules and all that has changed is that there is now an additional rule that can be broken.

Given that the BBC has not put on anything to require people to log in to watch live TV streamed to computers may mean that they won't for the new change of requiring a license for catch up. The license could be broken ever since live streaming became available on iPlayer but they never did anything significant to stop people.
Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 14-Aug-16 16:41:09
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What has TAX to do with anything?

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Standard User eckiedoo
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 14-Aug-16 17:36:29
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Keep in mind that it is the UK Government that legislated for the Licences, not the BBC.

And the Licence Fee is not "hypothecated" or directly allocated to the BBC, penny for penny.

The legislation is that an amount approximating to the Licence Fee would be allocated from general taxation to fund the BCC.
Standard User 23Prince
(committed) Tue 13-Dec-16 11:53:19
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Funnily enough I had a goon come round yesterday. He saw my nice big 4K TV and said " you need a licence" I then asked him why and he said "well you use Amazon and Netflix, and Amazon has live TV in it"

I laughed, told him that if it did then he needs to tell Amazon as even they aren't aware of this awesome feature and asked him to leave.

Afterwards out of no where his colleague came up (female) and said " please ignore him love he is fairly new, You do NOT need a licence for the apps he has seen and we will be on our way now, but I thank you very much for letting him in to view, you didn't have to do that"

[censored] won't again that's for sure! they can get a warrant for 2 years time. I don't use wifi and I run my router through a VPN so I could be an [censored] and actually watch Iplayer anyway and they couldn't sniff anything, however I don't.

he did raise one good point, he said that because NowTV has a watch live feature "I had to potential to use it" my reply, whilst sarky and extreme but also to the point was

'I also have the potential to murder, dosen't mean I choose to.."

He didn't comment lol

Edit: I don't use NowTV anyway! not my fault it came bundled and I can't uninstall it :/

Edited by 23Prince (Tue 13-Dec-16 11:56:14)

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