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Standard User AEP
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 18:55:57
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iOS / OS X Security Flaw


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Anyone got any suggestion as to what iPad 1 owners do about this security flaw? I'm sure that OS X will be updated in due course (best not to use it for secure stuff until then), but Apple gave up on the iPad 1 ages ago.
Standard User billford
(elder) Tue 25-Feb-14 19:16:53
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Re: iOS / OS X Security Flaw


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In reply to a post by AEP:
I'm sure that OS X will be updated in due course (best not to use it for secure stuff until then)
Can't help with the iPad, but 10.9.2 is in the App Store, along with Safari 6.1.2.


eta- More info:

http://www.tuaw.com/2014/02/25/os-x-update-10-9-2-no...

Bill
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Edited by billford (Tue 25-Feb-14 19:33:03)

Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 19:53:12
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I don't think it matters - the bug originated in 6.0 and (correct me if I'm wrong) the original iPad doesn't have support for that.

Apple's long standing policy is 3-generations-and-you-are-legacy (the only exception being OS9 support, which lasted until 10.5, although you can make a reasonable argument that before 10.3 it was a glorified public beta).

If you've a mind to look, the conspiracy theories around the bug have been quite amusing in an "ZOMG THERE' ALL OUT TO GET ME!!!! kind of way.


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Standard User AEP
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 20:04:27
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That's good news. Unfortunately it doesn't help with the iPad.
Standard User AEP
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 20:12:52
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Apple's long standing policy is 3-generations-and-you-are-legacy
And people complain about support for XP being withdrawn!

Does the 3 generations go back to Lion (2011) or Snow Leopard (2009)?
Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 20:21:59
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I think Snow Leopard is out of support now (some Lion features were pushed to it, but only really as a way to build moment for the App Store). Not sure about Lion.

Standard User Brookzy
(member) Tue 25-Feb-14 20:31:51
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Let's remember that OS X Mavericks is compatible with all Macs made since 2006* and is surprisingly resource-efficient.

AND it's free!

*2GB RAM minimum

plusnet FTTC (54/12)
Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 21:38:41
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It seems the upside is available for 10.7.

Standard User AEP
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 22:00:43
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Not much consolation for those of us with 2005 Mac Minis, though. frown
Standard User Brookzy
(member) Tue 25-Feb-14 22:02:38
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True. But that's a pretty ancient machine!

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Standard User AEP
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 22:13:27
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Apples are well-built machines. Both it and my original iPad are in perfect working order but are increasingly useless because of poor support. I've got older PCs that still work perfectly with the latest software.

Apple equipment is expensive and built to last. I don't think it unreasonable to want them to be supported for at least 10 years or more. What is the point of buying expensive equipment if it is obsolete a few years later?
Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Feb-14 22:32:02
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Trying to do that would leave them as sclerotic as MS has become. Apple has always made tools available for people to manage an orderly transition: "Classic OS", "Rosetta" - in both cases I took the decision to use neither, forcing myself to consider what I really needed and what is cruft (apart from briefly to run my PPC-only accounts package until I found a new one I liked).

My rev A mini is still doing a splendid turn as a media server/ XBMC host (not powered-down for 4 years or so, other than the odd power cut), but XBMC has now dropped PPC support. Either way, as a workhorse it is useless. My mid-2007 MBP lasted 7 years as a main machine. It will be the next media box, but most software is written with the most recent technology in mind.

Standard User DRW
(committed) Thu 27-Feb-14 17:01:42
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"OS X Mavericks is compatible with all Macs made since 2006*"

I wish this was true - I have an iMac5.1 with 3 GB of RAM and it will not allow Mavericks to installed. Mactracker indicates the the iMac was built between September 2006 and August 2007.

Any suggestions apart from buying a younger one.
Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 27-Feb-14 17:03:11
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Yes, I think Core2Duo from mid-2007 is the oldest supported by Mavericks.

Standard User Brookzy
(member) Thu 27-Feb-14 20:11:14
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Apologies, as ian_c has said, 2007 and newer are supported by Mavericks.

But if you try hard enough you can force an install but it's not really worth it. Important security and stability updates are still produced by Apple for OS X Lion and newer IIRC.

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Standard User DRW
(committed) Sat 01-Mar-14 14:27:23
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No worries

How do you force an install - connect it to a USB drive which is a backup from a more uptodate machine and boot from it.?
Standard User Brookzy
(member) Sat 01-Mar-14 14:32:03
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Force installing is quite complicated. Luckily, there's plenty of documentation about it, mainly due to Apple's decision not to include the first generation Mac Pro in the Mavericks-compatible club. I think this is something to do with the EFI of earlier Macs being 32-bit and Mavericks only supports 64-bit.

Basically, it's not worth it. But if you're desperate, the Macrumors forums are a good place to go.

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Standard User billford
(elder) Sat 01-Mar-14 18:19:11
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In reply to a post by DRW:
I have an iMac5.1 with 3 GB of RAM and it will not allow Mavericks to installed. Mactracker indicates the the iMac was built between September 2006 and August 2007.

Any suggestions apart from buying a younger one.
I assume it's running Snow Leopard?

In which case, why not just leave it as it is? SL is a perfectly good OS and, according to this site, doesn't suffer from the security flaw that prompted the OP.

Alternatively, put Linux on it. Or even Windows, apparently it'll take the 32-bit version of Windows 8.1.

Bill
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Standard User DRW
(committed) Sun 02-Mar-14 10:51:43
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Thanks I will have a look

Re the following post - why would I like to update to a more recent OSX.
I have 4 other Macs all on Mavericks and I use Yojimbo to ensure that certain key data is available on each machine. Sadly Yojimbo does not sync to the down level machine so the key data is no longer available on the old machine.

As for replacing the oldest machine with a more recent and compatible machine - well I am not the main user, I am tech support for the machine and the main user does not see a need for getting a newer (and bigger machine)

Perhaps one day there will be a hardware failure.............. after I have secreted a newer machine into the house. <g>
Standard User ian_c
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 02-Mar-14 13:25:23
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Perhaps one day there will be a hardware failure
Sounds like a job for the Birmingham Screwdriver!

Standard User billford
(elder) Sun 02-Mar-14 13:59:07
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Masking tape over the cooling vents would be less obvious and probably equally effective, albeit slower smile

(Along with something to give the CPU a good work-out, of course.)

Bill
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Standard User DRW
(committed) Mon 03-Mar-14 12:45:46
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<g>
Get thee behind me Satan.
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