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I thought it was an ever-present option. (But I don't care enough to fire up my Mac to check.) If it does behave as you suggest then that is a better design than I had supposed.

I was wrong- it is ever-present, see earlier in the thread.

It was just somewhere I'd never noticed it!

So if a process hangs (which they sometimes do, on all systems) the user should have no recovery until the OS deems it OK? Very Windows thinking that.

I'd consider it to be more a matter of protecting the user from hasty action that they might regret. So, for once, we are in agreement - Very Windows thinking that.

Haven't fired up Ubuntu for a while, but I imagine it has much the same functionality.

Sorry - missed that bit. No, Linux behaves like Windows in this respect (well certainly KDE does). You won't find a SIGKILL option as part of the default UI. You can (obviously) do it from the command line, or it will be presented as an option if a program doesn't close in a timely manner. Good design.

Obviously opinions vary, but I still don't see it as having a place in the default UI. The user should be protected from unintended consequences of their actions.

hasty action that they might regret.

In what way might they regret it?

In reply to a post by AnotherExPipex:

Obviously opinions vary, but I still don't see it as having a place in the default UI.

I'd agree with that, it should either not be there or follow the option on the dock icon

The user should be protected from unintended consequences of their actions.

That's a whole can of worms that I'm not getting in to

Well, if I "force quitted" an application with an important document in it then I guess that I might later regret it.