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Standard User pebbleheed
(newbie) Mon 26-Oct-15 10:34:46
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Any viable 4g tariffs to replace poor adsl?


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Hi,

I'm looking over 4g options to consider instead of my adsl connection. I don't seem able to find any that offer a decent bandwidth however. Is anyone aware of a sim only or mifi type deal that offers more than a few gig a month?

I tend to do a lot of online gaming on the ps4 so a quick connection is required and I download a few gig a month too although I could limit the downloads a little if I had to and the price was right.

With my exchange looking like fibre will never arrive I'm wondering if it's genuinely doable to swap to 4g instead?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 26-Oct-15 10:41:09
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Re: Any viable 4g tariffs to replace poor adsl?


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Best is usually in the 20 to 50GB per month range, which for games downloads is almost nothing e.g. freebie games can be 10 to 20GB each.

Best might be to retain a slow ADSL line for large downloads and do those overnight, with gaming (if 4G delivers the stable latency and that's a big IF) itself and day to day use over the 4G SIM.

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Standard User pebbleheed
(newbie) Mon 26-Oct-15 10:48:56
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Re: Any viable 4g tariffs to replace poor adsl?


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Yeah I was concerned about the latency. But the issue I have is with adsl the upload seems too slow for games like GTA online and COD. I get major lag issues I was hoping the 4g would resolve.

Don't suppose anyone could recommend which networks are better for this?

And yeah, the adsl for download idea is a good one. Thanks.


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Standard User mixt
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 26-Oct-15 10:56:44
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GiffGaff (O2 network) now offer unlimited £20/month 4G goodybag: https://www.giffgaff.com/goodybags/20pound-goodybag

but the catch is:
What does ĎAlways Oní data mean?
Our Always On goodybag is designed to give you peace of mind that you'll always have access to data. With Always On you get 6GB of UK data at full 4G speeds and then an unlimited data allowance at a reduced speed (256kbps) from 8am to midnight. From midnight to 7.59am you have an unlimited data allowance at full speed.

EDIT: I guess if you are doing well beyond 6GB a month, you should look elsewhere.

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Edited by mixt (Mon 26-Oct-15 10:58:10)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 26-Oct-15 11:04:06
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Low upload? Call of Duty does not need massive amounts of upload, a standard ADSL line with up to 400 Kbps upload should be a factor a 3 to 4 times better than what is actually needed.

Only time this is not the case is if trying to broadcast a twitch stream. Voice should even be okay over an ADSL line.

Lag issues are probably nothing to do with the upload, but may be a lot more to do with the exchange or the ISP choice, which exchange and which ISP are involved.

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Standard User mixt
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 26-Oct-15 11:04:41
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Just realised that if you used this in a 4G router, I'm pretty sure they would block you for using unlimited goodybag with mifi device:

https://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Learning-and-giffg...

So, scrap this idea. You'll need to look elsewhere.

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Standard User mixt
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 26-Oct-15 11:07:51
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You could always look at A&A: http://www.aaisp.net.uk/telecoms-mobile-data.html

They offer a very simple flat rate fee of £2/month for the SIM, then a PAYG charging policy for the bandwidth actually used. They run on the Three network, but not sure if it's a 4G enabled service (call them and enquire if you are interested?).

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Download Maximiser | BIND GeoDNS | Are you being blÝcked?
Standard User pebbleheed
(newbie) Mon 26-Oct-15 12:18:04
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I noticed lag with talktalk adsl at a past address. Moved to fibre with talktalk and all was perfect.

The lag seemed worse on GTA. When walking it was fine but if driving with other people in my car their systems lagged while mine was fine. Caused problems when doing multiplayer. I could be a passenger to avoid the lag most of the time but occasionally it came back.

I presumed it was the slow upload speed that did it on ps4 having party chat open too. I'll see how it all works later this week when talktalk install my new connection at the new address. Buy as its a straight connection to the exchange without a green box and as the lines here look old I'm expecting a poor connection despite their predictions sadly.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 26-Oct-15 13:21:19
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Party chat - should only use upload for your voice or text (if video involved then yes ADSL will be bad)

The other peoples voice and text messages really only impact the download side.

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Standard User pebbleheed
(newbie) Mon 26-Oct-15 13:31:21
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I suspect party chat uses less compression than in game chat however as the quality is a lot better. Very noticeable.

Using in game chat seems to reduce lag on poorer connections for me.

I'll test it when I get my 3rd world connection sorted here. Currently without any net at all. It's depressing laugh
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