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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 07-Dec-18 06:24:56
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The Three unlimited deal is now mainstream product £27


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Link.

I wish they hadnít done that. I wonder if it is aimed at O2/Sky/GiffGaff customers?

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Standard User onthenet
(member) Fri 07-Dec-18 12:20:34
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That's a standard product that they always had, it's just that on black Friday they dropped the price to 20 and the tethering limit was removed around July due to the Ofcom ruling.

That's is what my phone contract has been for the last three years except I have it for 19/mnth.

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Standard User sheephouse
(member) Fri 07-Dec-18 12:41:12
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I went for the Black Friday £20 offer - they confirmed that the SIM would work without any restrictions in any compatible device, so it is now in my MikroTik SXT LTE router, and has replaced my £30pm 100GB sim for home broadband. It is a a great deal (even at £27) if you get a good Three 4G signal and can't get decent broadband any other way.


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Standard User 23Prince
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 07-Dec-18 13:01:37
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Wouldn't surprise me - but some of them have been kicked off giffgaff fur mad usage.

It's also a bit shocking how you can sign up to a sim only plan and then after a month change to this for £16. or so I am told.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 07-Dec-18 13:01:58
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Strange that Iíve never seen it before, but I believe you.

Though it looks to me like you may be on a (form of) retention deal? That wasnítand isnít available to new users? I was talking to a girl last night who has been on the £19 one for three years or so as well smile.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 07-Dec-18 13:06:31
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See my post a couple of minutes ago.

Being kicked off giffgaff for caning it could make sense, except their T & Cs may not be Ofcom-allowable if challenged. They will be buying a certain amount of capacity at well below retail price, like any reseller, and risk breaking it.

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Standard User 23Prince
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 07-Dec-18 13:44:27
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
See my post a couple of minutes ago.

Being kicked off giffgaff for caning it could make sense, except their T & Cs may not be Ofcom-allowable if challenged. They will be buying a certain amount of capacity at well below retail price, like any reseller, and risk breaking it.


Yes but OFCOM stuff aside - I spent 2 years as an agent a few years ago and amongst many others I had a e-mail pre composed explaining why someone had been kicked off - and I sent it several times an hour, never mind a day! It was always due to them doing double digits on their goodybag

I personally had the always on goodybag - I was 384kbps from about 0.5GB to the end. I couldn't use it - I left giffgaff in the end because I couldn't peddle their BS anymore - I was one of 6

Edited as I can't spell today!

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Fri 07-Dec-18 16:03:33
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Double digits, like 10+ GB?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 07-Dec-18 16:35:44
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That was then. This is now:-
At this point some of you might well be asking: ďSurely they canít afford to do that on their Ďall-you-can-eat-dataí plans too?Ē

The answer on this seems to be a little confused because their documentation says: ďEven if you used your phone for every minute of every day you could only use, subject to TrafficSenseô, around 1000GB each month. We may use this cap to identify inappropriate use of the service, such as commercial use, which isnít permitted under our terms and conditionsĒ


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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 07-Dec-18 16:49:10
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Seems a slightly odd statement of theirs.

I might be getting the maths wrong but at around 3Mbps you would hit 1TB in a month. That would suggest "TrafficSense" is limiting speeds massively as 4G is much faster than this in many locations. At 40Mbps I believe a person could use nearly 13TB of data in a 30 day month if using constantly.

If my maths is right then does that suggest that the 3 all you can eat unlimited is artificially limited by TrafficSense?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 07-Dec-18 17:32:13
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I'm not entirely sure what TrafficSense is if it isn't just a traffic counter per connection.

But don't forget that "always on" doesn't mean always in use. For instance, even people using social media will spend more time reading and composing than they will sending.

It's the old thing that anyone involved in communications systems design knows, that must of the time the connection is idle.

I expect they are working on the basis of knowing how their "unlimited" people use their connections. Even someone doing a lot of streaming isn't likely to be doing it 24/7/365.

They say there that in practice a terabyte of mobile data would suggest to them commercial use. No doubt they have ways of delving deeper into any connection reaching that. They point out that commercial use isn't allowed on the product.

I would put it at over 90% certainty they have it sussed so as not to fall foul of Ofcom. Or many disgruntled users.

The fact is they have been selling this product for at least three years now. We haven't seen single peep about it not being truly unlimited. The fact the previous one didn't have the infrastructure and backhaul in place isn't really relevant.

Look how quickly landline suppliers got unlimited sorted once they needed to.

I've just discovered on ISPreview that on 1 Nov they started rolling out Carrier Aggregation as well. 4G+ as they seem to call it. Sorry, I have to go but you'll fin it on the ISPreview News tab.

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Standard User 23Prince
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 07-Dec-18 18:42:55
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
I'm not entirely sure what TrafficSense is if it isn't just a traffic counter per connection.


Traffic management
Standard User 23Prince
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 07-Dec-18 18:43:35
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Double digits, like 10+ GB?


12-13GB used to be when they started watching someone. Max I saw was 57GB done on a plan before they were chopped
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 07-Dec-18 20:09:55
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Ugh. Those few heavy users not already using them will pile on further congesting their backhaul.

Cynical move on their part or they've been working on their traffic management to better control the heaviest users.

Would far rather they'd augmented the network before doing this.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 07-Dec-18 23:36:06
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Would far rather they'd augmented the network before doing this.
Do you know they haven't? Don't forget they are also rolling out Carrier Aggregation to increase their top speed.

I don't think it is in this region yet but see a speed test this morning. Normal is as per my sig.

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Sun 09-Dec-18 22:34:27
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Carrier Aggregation helps with backhaul congestion how, exactly?

They released it in my area while doing precisely nothing to relieve backhaul congestion - the result being a full 4G+ / Carrier Aggregation signal delivering 280kbps with over a second of jitter.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 09-Dec-18 23:25:36
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LOL, yes smile.

I havenít a clue about that. I was quoting from some fairly respectable article. I didnít think about the backhaul aspect, but as you imply/say that is the more important factor. Particularly on mobile where there are so many more potential pinch points.

Youíve probably seen Iíve just ditched my FTTC in favour of the Three ul/ul/ul.

Iím fairly sure they must have hugely increased their backhaul capacity to put out full page adverts in The Times, but mast backhaul and output may be another question. The CEO was quoted somewhere as saying, (to paraphrase), they might look into whether people who pull over 1TB pm are doing something commercial. Which is barred in the T & Cs. But it is encouraging re the policy on capacity.

Wrt myself, my estate gets 5Mbps ADSL2+ on a clean and home wiring sorted line, and 60-70 on FTTC, and has high VM (ex-NTL) takeup from decades before FTTC cane along. Though Iíve had to clean up a couple with under 2.5Mbps.

I think now we have upgraded VM plus FTTC there wonít be a huge demand on the Three mast. As for the rest of the country, only time will tell.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 10-Dec-18 12:57:43
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was clear the product was here to stay, it was the price that was temporary.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 10-Dec-18 13:01:09
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sounds good, sign me up. smile

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