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Standard User wildgoose1uk
(regular) Sun 11-Nov-12 09:34:29
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Master Socket issue


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I have just changed from AOL UK to talktalk and a curiosity has arisen!

The service works when plugged into the phone socket in my study but when I move it to the master socket I cannot get any internet connection at all and the internet light on the modem remains unlit.

Does anyone have any idea why the broadband connection works in an extension socket but not in the master socket? It seems very strange to me.

Thanks in advance.

wg

Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Sun 11-Nov-12 09:41:26
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Perhaps the master faceplate plug hole is dusty / broken. I assume you mean the front outer plug socket on the master, as opposed to the removing of the faceplate and plugging in to the internal plug hole?

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 11-Nov-12 11:45:48
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Bent pins? On maybe a damaged master with the extension hardwired to the incoming terminals. Several more possibilities ...

Can you get some images of inside te master and extension sockets so we can see what wires are where.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 11-Nov-12 12:10:03
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Master socket may not be the first socket in the line

Does a telephone work in it?

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Standard User wildgoose1uk
(regular) Sun 11-Nov-12 18:19:48
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It is not a regular Master socket. It is more the first socket in the line (as very kindly traced by Mr Saffron about 18 months ago).

I can't think that there are any bent pins as it all worked beautifully when we were testing the line and the wiring and I haven't used it since. A telephone works in the socket. The house is about 6 years old and therefore the wiring is that age too.

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(isp) Thu 15-Nov-12 09:46:20
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Hi Wildgoose,

If you register and post on the TalkTalk Members Forum we can investigate into this in more depth.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 15-Nov-12 13:47:01
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Stats from the router when using both sockets are the key

Was this the house with large number of phone sockets all in series?

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Standard User wildgoose1uk
(regular) Thu 22-Nov-12 11:11:16
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Stats from the router when using both sockets are the key

Was this the house with large number of phone sockets all in series?


Sorry for the delay in replying but I forgot I had a filter on!!

Yes mate, 4 sockets upstairs and one downstairs. The line comes in at the front door into the garage and then straight up. Loops upstairs and comes down into the livingroom.

The line stats are interesting!! I spent yesterday morning trying four of the five sockets with four different routers. The only one I could get to connect was the extension in my study.

Today I tried the first socket in the line and to my amazement it connected!! But the line stats tell a story:

Master Socket? 22 Nov. 12 10:50hrs
ADSL (Sync) Summary
System uptime: 0:18:32
Modem ADSL (Sync) uptime: 0:17:25
Interleaving: On
ADSL mode: ADSL2
ADSL settings: PVC:0/38
ADSL line speed (kbps): up 820 down 361
Line attentuation (dB): up 25.0 down 55.0
SN margin (dB): up 6.3 down 6.1
Total errors seconds: 0

Extension Socket 22 Nov. 12 10:50hrs
ADSL (Sync) Summary
System uptime: 0:03:21
Modem ADSL (Sync) uptime: 0:02:14
Interleaving: On
ADSL mode: ADSL2
ADSL settings: PVC:0/38
ADSL line speed (kbps): up 952 down 5014
Line attentuation (dB): up 23.0 down 56.0
SN margin (dB): up 5.0 down 6.2
Total errors seconds: 0

So in the "Master" socket I get 361kb download speed and in the extension I get 5mb.

I am thoroughly confused!!

On another note BBC iplayer is loading quicker on tv when connected via wifi than it does connected with homeplugs.

Cheers

wg

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 22-Nov-12 11:25:42
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First off - DISCONNECT every extension so that you have just the master socket. This should be done by removing the top half of the face plate and then connecting to the test socket behind. If you do not have a split faceplate you will need to disconnect them however they are connected.

What stats do you get then?

And whilst it is apart can you get some pictures of the master and wires connected to it.


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