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Standard User blackmesa8
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 01-Apr-13 20:38:28
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Router security question


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My routers highest wifi security option is "WPA/WPA2 mixed mode(Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key)"
How does wpa and wpa2 at the same time work? and is it safe with a 13 digit alphanumeric upper case and lower case password?

Blackmesa8
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 01-Apr-13 20:54:46
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WPA2 only is better - is that not available ?

You aren't restricted to 13 characters, use lower/upper/numbers/symbols you have 8-64 characters from memory.

How does it work at the same time ? I imagine the clients negotiate the encryption to use with the access point, but I haven't read the details of it.

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 01-Apr-13 20:55:02
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It will accept WPA2 if clients support it but will also accept WPA1 if clients do not support WPA2..

I think a 13 character alphanumeric password is absolutely fine for a home wifi network.

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Standard User bobble_bob
(experienced) Mon 01-Apr-13 21:24:41
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Guess it depends on where you live too. I live in a small village where only about 6 houses could even pick me wireless signal up, and i know 3 of those dont have internet access as they're elderly, so even though i have security on, its probably doesnt have to be as secure as say living in a town centre
Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Mon 01-Apr-13 21:53:37
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I use WPA with 63 alphanumeric-characters password for wireless security, not all my network stuff support WPA2.

The 63 alphanumeric characters password generated at GRC website https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm

r7n7JSY77I5xkHeGRK0mXDzyY47OjUPqaIhFGpdH7PJ79h896bw5eKBTbHig6R

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 01-Apr-13 22:11:35
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In reply to a post by bobble_bob:
Guess it depends on where you live too. I live in a small village where only about 6 houses could even pick me wireless signal up, and i know 3 of those dont have internet access as they're elderly, so even though i have security on, its probably doesnt have to be as secure as say living in a town centre

You're spot on.

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Mon 01-Apr-13 22:22:26
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The 63 alphanumeric characters password generated at GRC website https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm

r7n7JSY77I5xkHeGRK0mXDzyY47OjUPqaIhFGpdH7PJ79h896bw5eKBTbHig6R


Hmm. Slight chance that GRC have a copy of it. I pop on a blindfold, then bash my head on the keyboard for extra randomness.

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Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Tue 02-Apr-13 00:14:24
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In reply to a post by E7er:
The 63 alphanumeric characters password generated at GRC website https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm

r7n7JSY77I5xkHeGRK0mXDzyY47OjUPqaIhFGpdH7PJ79h896bw5eKBTbHig6R


Hmm. Slight chance that GRC have a copy of it. I pop on a blindfold, then bash my head on the keyboard for extra randomness.

tongue
No worries, my 63 alphanumeric characters wireless password is kept secret... I could never remember it so I keep a copy in Word, then I copy and paste it into my router and mobile phone. smile

phPwPOt47VVKRY7nru0XW2tzw4YGjOV5jyG1XjKnOUn3OGSt6mBCXXdw7AOL5WB

https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm

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Standard User greenglide
(experienced) Tue 02-Apr-13 09:27:17
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No worries, my 63 alphanumeric characters wireless password is kept secret... I could never remember it so I keep a copy in Word, then I copy and paste it into my router and mobile phone. smile

phPwPOt47VVKRY7nru0XW2tzw4YGjOV5jyG1XjKnOUn3OGSt6mBCXXdw7AOL5WB

https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm


If you "keep a copy in word" it is not secret!

Why don't you use a product like keepass http://keepass.info/ or similar to generate and store your passwords?

If you use any password which is 63 characters long of random characters in cannot be "secret" as you must have a copy and entering it will be a right sod.

Must be a right pain if you use a SKY wireless adapter with a SKY+ box? Unless you use WPS?

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Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Tue 02-Apr-13 10:56:01
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If you "keep a copy in word" it is not secret!

Why don't you use a product like keepass http://keepass.info/ or similar to generate and store your passwords?

If you use any password which is 63 characters long of random characters in cannot be "secret" as you must have a copy and entering it will be a right sod.

Must be a right pain if you use a SKY wireless adapter with a SKY+ box? Unless you use WPS?
KeePass now youíre talking, itís my most favourite programme, I hadnít thought of keeping it in there! I use Keepass for bank accounts, utility bills, insurance accounts, Driving Licence, car tax, Internet accounts and anything I want to keep details of securely for instant access. Itís hard to believe the programme is offered FREE. wink

http://keepass.info/

I donít use Sky and have Ethernet connected to the TV for Internet, so no wireless password needed there. I have a Nokia mobile phone that I cannot use on my wireless LAN due to it will not copy and paste like my iPhone.

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