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Standard User tellows
(newbie) Thu 14-Nov-13 16:01:34
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Integrating a Caller ID system into UK routers!


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Hello all!

I'm posting to ask for some technical advice on British routers for our company, tellows.

Based in Germany, tellows provides an online platform in over 40 countries on which users can report their experiences with telephone numbers. This data is compiled and, via an algorithm, a trustworthiness rating (on a scale of 1-9) is generated for each number. Effectively, therefore, the website acts as an online phone number database that users can consult when faced with a call from an unknown number.

To make this tool even more effective, the tellows team have found ways to link the database directly with a telephone line, whether landline or mobile, so that the trustworthiness score will appear automatically on your caller display when a call comes through. For mobile phones, we have formulated Android and iPhone apps. In Germany, as far as landlines are concerned, we have successfully imported xml files of 'untrustworthy' numbers (score 7-9) into the Fritz!Boxes (Germany's leading router); this means that incoming calls are filtered through the 'phonebook' element of the router, so that untrustworthy calls will be picked up on and the score displayed on the caller display. We have also, as an alternative, used Asterisk systems to ping real-time queries to the tellows API.

We're now looking to go further and expand the service we can offer to our international market, and to do this, we are seeking advice from telecoms and router experts about the viability of using tellows in conjunction with other systems/routers.

We'd like to use this thread to discuss UK telecommunications systems that could be used to make this 'integration' possible.

The sorts of things we'd like to know are:

Are there any routers that would allow the import of tellows 'scorelists' in the same way that the Fritz!Box does, i.e. does the router contain the 'phonebook' element that the Fritz!Box does, and are xml file imports possible?

Which router manufacturers use Asterisk and allow you to install plugins on telecommunications systems? We're particularly interested in the key routers from the Big 4, namely BT, Sky, Virgin Media and TalkTalk.

What alternatives to Asterisk are available on widely-used telecommunications systems that would be compatible with tellows?

We'd really appreciate any feedback and ideas that you may have.

Thanks in advance!
Ellen
The tellows team
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 14-Nov-13 16:25:54
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Re: Integrating a Caller ID system into UK routers!


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On the routers supplied by the big providers - none of them really handle the phone functionality. The fritzbox is rare in that respect.

So no phone books to play with.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Nov-13 17:30:36
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Re: Integrating a Caller ID system into UK routers!


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How can a router communicate with a land phone handset to tell it to add something to the Caller ID? They are on separate circuits with the phone filtered from the BB signal. Does the filter act as a router?

Or are you suggesting that the phone be connected to the router? Or is this for VOIP phones only?

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Standard User TMCR
(member) Thu 14-Nov-13 18:36:45
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Re: Integrating a Caller ID system into UK routers!


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And, for those of us on Virgin Media cable, there is no interaction between phone line and Internet signal or router... wink

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Standard User The_Voyager
(committed) Fri 15-Nov-13 08:30:19
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Re: Integrating a Caller ID system into UK routers!


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Quite easily with the Fritz! box, it has a Y lead, that goes from the phone & DSL sockets on filtered faceplate to the WAN port, then back out via 2 phone ports & 4 LAN ports, I think there were special filters included as well in case you didn't have a filtered faceplate.

This country used to be a leader in new ideas but we seem to fall behind when it comes to Telecommunications.

Bob WRBRIX
PN Unl.Fibre - Fritz! 7390 ~ Sync 79.99/20 Mb/s Avg 74.54/18.62 Mb/s @ 320m
DialUp to CIX, BT Home Highway to CIX, ADSL to Nildram, SKY & Be*Unlimited, Fibre to BT
Standard User The_Voyager
(committed) Fri 15-Nov-13 08:40:33
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Which is a shame really, as it is a very useful addition.

One of the drawbacks of the Fritz! box is not down to the box, but the way that Caller ID is handled by Landline technology in this country, in that International numbers are not shown, like they are on mobile phones.

Bob WRBRIX
PN Unl.Fibre - Fritz! 7390 ~ Sync 79.99/20 Mb/s Avg 74.54/18.62 Mb/s @ 320m
DialUp to CIX, BT Home Highway to CIX, ADSL to Nildram, SKY & Be*Unlimited, Fibre to BT
Standard User zom22
(regular) Fri 15-Nov-13 08:42:33
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Re: Integrating a Caller ID system into UK routers!


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Maybe so on new ideas
It's just the we the consumer are not stupid enough to spend around £200 on something we don't see a need for - like a Fritzbox

The majority of the UK's broadband customers are quite happy with their ISP's free Broadband only router.

In the UK BB seems to be sold now on lowest price
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Fri 15-Nov-13 08:47:00
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Displaying the number of calls from abroad

19. From autumn 2013 customers will, if required, in addition to the wording INTL, start to see the CLI of calls from abroad. Our plan is, as exchanges are upgraded, to roll out this facility to all customers by autumn 2014. This network development will allow customers to screen their calls more easily and recognise the numbers of friends and family calling from abroad. It will also readily provide CLI /data to help customers report their calls to the regulators.



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Standard User The_Voyager
(committed) Fri 15-Nov-13 08:47:17
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I really think you should be talking to the Main suppliers of the routers and the Big 4 ISPs, but as per my Comment to Mr Saffron, the problem here is how Caller ID is supplied on Landline Telephones

Bob WRBRIX
PN Unl.Fibre - Fritz! 7390 ~ Sync 79.99/20 Mb/s Avg 74.54/18.62 Mb/s @ 320m
DialUp to CIX, BT Home Highway to CIX, ADSL to Nildram, SKY & Be*Unlimited, Fibre to BT
Standard User The_Voyager
(committed) Fri 15-Nov-13 09:05:12
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Thanks for that, about time too smile

Bob WRBRIX
PN Unl.Fibre - Fritz! 7390 ~ Sync 79.99/20 Mb/s Avg 74.54/18.62 Mb/s @ 320m
DialUp to CIX, BT Home Highway to CIX, ADSL to Nildram, SKY & Be*Unlimited, Fibre to BT
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